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Primary voters are more affluent than typical voters and are more tuned in. Thus you get partisans voting.
This post doesn't make sense to me. A more tuned in black vote should mean a better black vote. Biden should be thanking right now of that's the case.
 

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This post doesn't make sense to me. A more tuned in black vote should mean a better black vote. Biden should be thanking right now of that's the case.
makes perfect sense, let's be honest, black polling right now is literally based on name recognition and the obama connection. it doesnt mean the black vote is truly tuned in. but if you go poll some random city down south, it's exactly why Biden is the name/gets the support.

if there were a way to do a poll of "tuned in" black people, you'd probably see a much wider disparity in support
 

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Lastly, the whole notion that somehow Elizabeth Warren is in anyway comparable to Barack Obama as a person (not as a policy maker) is absurd. Obama already have a third of the south when he won Iowa. They already loved him but didn’t see it happening. Warren is polling in single digits. Comparing the two things are pointless. Obama had legitimate southern surrogates, Warren has no one of note endorsing her over Biden. She is also trailing Sanders and Biden among Latinos.
I would like to caution you guys against making arguments about polling this early

Here Is Where Obama Was In The Polls In July Of 2007
 

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makes perfect sense, let's be honest, black polling right now is literally based on name recognition and the obama connection. it doesnt mean the black vote is truly tuned in. but if you go poll some random city down south, it's exactly why Biden is the name/gets the support.

if there were a way to do a poll of "tuned in" black people, you'd probably see a much wider disparity in support
Ok, I guess I agree with that but the tuned in vote should've been a lot more anti Clinton in the last election
 

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Ok, I guess I agree with that but the tuned in vote should've been a lot more anti Clinton in the last election
not really, clinton had her faults, but people tend to use that as an attack on her qualifications. clinton had both the name and qualifications to be pres and appeal to the moderate/conservative base. her missteps weren't in the primary, it was the general.
 

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not really, clinton had her faults, but people tend to use that as an attack on her qualifications. clinton had both the name and qualifications to be pres and appeal to the moderate/conservative base. her missteps weren't in the primary, it was the general.
While everything you say is correct...I still think she was a bad candidate and whoever the Democratic Nominee ended up being would've had the name recognition. Her missteps in terms of the black community was disqualifier before and should've been again. Our people should be using MORE than name recognition and not relying at all on whether a candidate appeals to moderates. We have a big enough base to push that forward.
 

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Good God I almost choked on my food on this one :russ:

him and his robber baron friends are nervous, hell i would be too :yeshrug:
I know you aint talking about me, the dude who was yelling at people after Bernie lost not to be dumb while my fellow moderator was sayingn let Trump win so that the revolution would be upon us.
 

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Basically. He can be Braveheart. Appreciate him for everything. Warren is Robert the Bruce though :birdman:

Plus she has no problem saying what she’s going to do exactly for black people whereas Bernie tiptoes around the question every time to not piss off his racist who don’t think they’re racist working class whites. Also Warren is a lot better at expounding on her ideas and where every single dollar is going and why.
 

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not really, clinton had her faults, but people tend to use that as an attack on her qualifications. clinton had both the name and qualifications to be pres and appeal to the moderate/conservative base. her missteps weren't in the primary, it was the general.
QUOTE="JMurder, post: 34963845, member: 1156"]While everything you say is correct...I still think she was a bad candidate and whoever the Democratic Nominee ended up being would've had the name recognition. Her missteps in terms of the black community was disqualifier before and should've been again. Our people should be using MORE than name recognition and not relying at all on whether a candidate appeals to moderates. We have a big enough base to push that forward.[/QUOTE]
No one questioned Hillary's qualifications, they just wanted America to move more left. Sanders gave them a voice and that voice was equal to 70% of millennials in the last primary. That group of people showed up at at 66% rate for Obama in 2008 and 60% rate in 2012. When they stayed home, you had winnable races like Feingold and the presidency go the other way. Basically, Clinton had to answer for dissent that had festered for a decade and she and the party were unaware of. (I also said this was unfair but it was what it was.)

You're assuming more affluent voter or tuned-in means more informed on left-leaning issues. It just means they're watching the news. The most left-leaning people are the least likely to vote and think politics are bullshyt. That's part of why you had such dissaray at the 2016 convention, Bernie essentially brought in the streets and they didn't understand how the DNC works.
 

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