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Is the position here to fearmonger Warren supporterers to vote for Bernie because there's a chance Biden may win?
 

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I find this to be a strange take.

White voters tend to be more liberal.
College educated voters tend to be more liberal.
It makes since that those are the people who support a progressive candidate.

If you want liberal policy, you're going to have those people make up a large part of your voting block.

If voters in the midwest want progressive policy and not just identity politics they'll easily gravitate to warren from Sanders if she's the candidate.

Not to mention, I have zero doubt that Bernie will show up and help her. They have a great relationship and he put in a ton of leg work for the Clinton campaign after the convention last time. Even if Warren for some reason couldn't reach these audiences, I think Bernie would thread the needle for her.
 

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Not to mention, I have zero doubt that Bernie will show up and help her. They have a great relationship and he put in a ton of leg work for the Clinton campaign after the convention last time. Even if Warren for some reason couldn't reach these audiences, I think Bernie would thread the needle for her.
Definitely and it wouldn't seemed forced like under Clinton.

The field will thin out eventually and at some point voters will have to choose, but it does everyone more benefit to have Bernie and Warren in the top three than kamala or Pete + Biden. :scusthov:
 

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People acting like Warren is out here doing string theory on the campaign trail are being disingenuous. She consistently threads the needle between detail and declarative moral statements. Just look at her performance during the recent climate town hall, or the CNN debate. She has an uncanny ability to distill wonky concepts into easily understandable and digestible concepts. Look at how she described breaking up Amazon or her 2% wealth tax. In fact, if someone can point to a Warren speech or campaign event that is too abstruse for the general population, I'd love to see it.
They keep saying this because it was supposed to be her issue with voters but clearly it isn't. They think they can speak it into existence and I find that amusing.:popcorn3:

She's kind of like Bill Clinton in that regard, people forget he was a Rhodes Scholar and Yalie because of his folksy charm. His policy chops, though I have contempt for his brand of politics, have also become underrated as time goes by. Warren also has that charm and her upbringing definitely makes her relatable to working-class voters. Her issue here is Sanders and Biden also relate to them, so they mitigate from her ability to draw from that base. That's not unlike Biden's advantage with black voters mitigating from everyone's else's ability to draw them in.

Anyway, I kind of feel like Warren is going to take Iowa and finish second to Sanders in New Hampshire. If that happens the narrative will shift, similar to Obama's in 2008.
 

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They keep saying this because it was supposed to be her issue with voters but clearly it isn't. They think they can speak it into existence and I find that amusing.:popcorn3:

She's kind of like Bill Clinton in that regard, people forget he was a Rhodes Scholar and Yalie because of his folksy charm. His policy chops, though I have contempt for his brand of politics, have also become underrated as time goes by. Warren also has that charm and her upbringing definitely makes her relatable to working-class voters. Her issue here is Sanders and Biden also relate to them, so they mitigate from her ability to draw from that base. That's not unlike Biden's advantage with black voters mitigating from everyone's else's ability to draw them in.

Anyway, I kind of feel like Warren is going to take Iowa and finish second to Sanders in New Hampshire. If that happens the narrative will shift, similar to Obama's in 2008.
Great post and good reference. She's almost always framing her ideas and plans in the context of her identity as a working mother or her working-class upbringing. Her background as a teacher (of both post-secondary students and elementary school children) is also so evident here and makes those claims of aloofness or wonkiness even more ridiculous. She's one of the most talented political communicators of our era, and it's showing.
 

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a good 10% of all posts in this thread lately have been "Guys! Guys! I went on Twitter and Bernie Bros were being mean, guys! Warren has got this in the bag!"

Big money decided to get behind Liz but it's too late. Bernie's giant army of volunteers is on the ground making certain he wins primaries. Polls mean jack shyt, especially when they're being pushed by shills. Biden voters' second choice is mostly Bernie. Bernie has the support of the working class, POC, and women. Warren's got wealthy college educated CACs and that's it.

Stop falling for the bullshyt.
 

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People acting like Warren is out here doing string theory on the campaign trail are being disingenuous. She consistently threads the needle between detail and declarative moral statements. Just look at her performance during the recent climate town hall, or the CNN debate. She has an uncanny ability to distill wonky concepts into easily understandable and digestible concepts. Look at how she described breaking up Amazon or her 2% wealth tax. In fact, if someone can point to a Warren speech or campaign event that is too abstruse for the general population, I'd love to see it.
The thing that separates Warren from Bernie is that Warren LEAPT on the politically GENIUS move to straight up take Inslee's plan. WITH. HIS. APPROVAL.

You NEVER see anyone doing this and frankly, anyone who tries to pull this move will look silly compared to Warren.

She's straight up running GAME out here :banderas:
 

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There was just a seven-hour climate townhall, so people could talk about that. Cory Booker caught my attention, he's no Elizabeth Warren (or Jay Inslee when it comes to the issue) but I appreciate his vigor.

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I've only watched Warren's, Sanders', and Booker's spots though. To be honest, the only reason I watched Booker was a friend told me I needed to see it.
I'm seeing pundits lowkey being consistently shockd about how well Booker is doing... i think he might flip a few polls in the next few months
 

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They keep saying this because it was supposed to be her issue with voters but clearly it isn't. They think they can speak it into existence and I find that amusing.:popcorn3:

She's kind of like Bill Clinton in that regard, people forget he was a Rhodes Scholar and Yalie because of his folksy charm. His policy chops, though I have contempt for his brand of politics, have also become underrated as time goes by. Warren also has that charm and her upbringing definitely makes her relatable to working-class voters.
exactly. people keep skipping over her middle class/midwestern upbringing, how she connects to "real americans" via her religious background, etc. all her "folksy charm" that allows her to connect with middle and lower middle income folks gets thrown out because harvard, lawyer, elite liberals, too many detailed plans :bryan:

it's still a marathon out this bih and Warren G is squarely in it



and to continue to make yall liz haters mad :umadd:
 
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