2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Where are you getting this from sir?!
Did you not see them turn into jackie Chan and Chris tucker during the last debate?
Warren has been baited by the media several times to talk shyt on other dems and she’s like “naw y’all find someone else for your soundbites”
Y'all naive
Come primary time, the pressure will be on for one of them to drop out if they are splitting the vote and giving Biden the opportunity to win. They're not going to sit around holding hands while watching the best chance of them becoming president slip away.
This is terrible campaign strategy
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Hilarious Bernie bro’s critique of Liz is that she has support from “across the aisle” (ie less progressive and centrist Dems). Um, isn’t that the whole goal of the primary and how you win the nomination :swaggywhat:
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
I think this is a really strong point that gets to the heart of the differences between the two campaigns. Warren and her campaign are doggedly focused on dismantling and reshaping the actual, structural foundations of inequality, whereas Bernie and his campaign seem to be more concerned with, like, punishing individual bad actors. Two moments in their respective campaigns that really exemplify this are Bernie's recent comments on Jeff Bezos and Liz's principled refusal to hold a Fox Town Hall. Warren's critiques are deeper and more systemic, and as such, don't endear her to the fringe left who are more concerned about, like, (righteously) dunking on centrists and MSM journalists on twitter. Bernie's campaign is like candy for these people, and I think that's why his campaign is imbued with this sort of dark, retributive energy. Warren's political vision is relatively much more positive and brighter. Bernie points out what's wrong with the system while Warren promotes ways to fix it.
The interesting thing about this Warren-Bernie dynamic is that Warren actually does often talk about punishing individual bad actors (mock crying for billionaires whining about her wealth tax, her "Good." response to Peter Thiel comments, hand rubbing the idea of taking Delaney's wealth, etc) and actually follow it up with a policy platform (wealth tax, personal financial liability for Wall St. execs, criminal liability for Pharma execs, etc) that is ironically more confiscatory and hostile to the individual bad actors than Bernie's policy platform. So I think the reason Bernie gets praised from the fringe left and hate from the center is more stylistic and historical than any other reason.
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King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
The direction things are going, I could see an increasingly large number of Bernie's supporters disengaging from the political process if he doesn't get the nomination.
I wouldnt be surprised by this either. Anecdotally he got a lot of people into the process through his campaign in 2016 and they stuck around in the hopes he would run again. Id wager that a sizable portion of the dems supporting him will still vote but the independents may not
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Yep, this is a point in his favor. He has the most volatile base of support and can expand the coalition.
Thats the main reason supporting him being a better general election candidate than warren...although i havent seen her numbers with independent voters so who knows
Even if Bernie’s campaign ran a perfect campaign, I can’t see him winning the nomination with a contested convention.
Hood Critic
The Power Circle
They are desperate. Civitas is a conservative think tank.