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I'm surprised Warren is so high in SC, considering the demographics of her supporters. :ohhh:
Polls are a lagging indicator. The more people hear, the more they like Warren.

Ive been telling yall for months that Warren is KILLING it with black women and she's creeping up slowly and steadily.

She hasn't lost a single step in the polls.



 

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Are we going to blame the media this time Bernie bros? :francis:
lmao is your picture supposed to be ironic? the main beat writer covering Bernie at the NYtimes who openly shyts on him worked at Blackrock which is the biggest coal investor and she is the daughter in law of the CEO at Bain Capital. Even though she has no experience in journalism she got the job in 2018
Sydney Ember’s Secret Sources

imagine if a former BLM organizer was hired to cover Trump's re-election campaign or someone who was a women's march organizer was hired to cover Biden's campaign. wait, that would never happen

Biden just hired Nicholas Burns as a foreign policy advisor -- a guy that vehemently supported the Iraq War in 2002, worked for Bush, consulted for Goldman Sachs and this gets no play from legacy media because they put people on television that support wars and business as usual politics. Legacy media is 100% carrying water for Biden. How many op-eds have dropped saying his gaffes and mental decline don't matter
 

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@Skyfall you're moving the goalposts. The initial claim is that Bernie Sanders is being covered poorly by WaPo because of Amazon and then the media in general because of his policy positions that are seen as aggressive against corporations in general.

This claim doesn't hold weight when Elizabeth Warren isn't seeing similar coverage based on her equally aggressive positions against wall street, Amazon, large corporations and the 1%.

At some point you have to be willing to accept that some people don't like Bernie and it's not because of policy.

Ironic :Madwithher:
 

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they're putting on their nerd hats and going, "well good sir, ahem, if I may, the initial claim upon which your argument is substantiated....."

You know god damn well the people who own the mainstream media hate and fear Bernie, just want Liz to siphon his support, and would be fine with Biden or even a re-elected Trump.

Only one candidate in this race is openly threatening the billionaire overlords who live by fukking all of us over every day. The Epsteins of this world. fukk them and any candidate they're comfortable with.
 

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Notice how trump rarely speaks on Bernie


He’s got nothing on him

Generic socialist comments


That’s it !!

I'm not hardcore about Bernie as I use to be, but I have noticed the same. Trump is usually a big mouth with a lot of comedic material, but all he got on Bernie is "Crazy Bernie!" Trump supporters just use "communism" and "socialism" and don't even know what those words mean. :mjlol:

There's a reason why Trump wants Biden. He has too much material on him.
 

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@Skyfall

This claim doesn't hold weight when Elizabeth Warren isn't seeing similar coverage based on her equally aggressive positions against wall street, Amazon, large corporations and the 1%.
Bernie: I believe all college debt should be forgiven and all incarcerated people should be allowed to vote

Liz: I believe college debt up to a specific amount should be forgiven under specific circumstances and the incarcerated should not be allowed to vote

you: These things are the same to me.

1) She's a Harvard professor, running on a technocratic message. It's not shocking why that hits more with a bunch of university educated professionals. While they share some of their platform, Bernie's campaign is an explicit critique of the entire capital class -- which includes journalists. He is more confrontational than Warren

Warren’s campaign is more a critique of policy & structures, not the people who made them. She relies on bureaucratic reform while Bernie is going rely his base to help create action while he's in office. It's why their base demographics are different

2. And let's honest Liz keep signaling she's more malleable on certain issues like health care and obviously foreign policy which is her weakest point.

In the last week, she keeps toeing the line around medicare for all and said it's the goal. Why can't she just make the case as to why it would be the best option with the best coverage. Full stop.

Neera Tanden(who has taken money from Israel and the UAE for Center of American Progess) and Topher Spiro(helped write the ACA and works at CAP) have boosted her comments about it. These people are opposed to M4A. Spoiler comment is from somebody from Third Way(who we now know was funded by the Kochs) and Topher.
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3) She's already taking big money despite the pledge, has done it in the past from the same people that get it from Biden and will take if she makes it to the general. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rubycramer/elizabeth-warren-fundraising-dnc
Elizabeth Warren ripped Joe Biden’s big Philly fund-raiser. Last year, she did an event with some of the same rich donors.

Here are some quotes that should end the Bernie/Warren comparison

"In recent months, Elizabeth Warren has visited New York at least twice for fund-raising receptions, including one hosted by Meyer S. Frucher, the vice chairman of Nasdaq."
The First 2020 Race Is Underway: Scrambling for New York Donors

“I think Senator Warren’s views are more pragmatic; I think she is very different in a conversation than when she’s on the stump,” said Robert Wolf, the former UBS executive who hosted Ms. Warren and other Senate Democrats for a fund-raiser on Martha’s Vineyard this summer.
As Warren and Sanders Jockey for Support, One Takes a Road More Traveled

In fact, many Third Way leaders would accept Warren as the Democratic nominee in a way they wouldn’t accept Sanders.

“She’s a team player for the Democrats. She’s not committed to single-payer health insurance. That’s good enough for us,” said Erickson.
The Dilemma for Moderate Democrats

4) And even saying all of this, if Bernie were to drop out in the next five minutes the coverage around Warren would be more hostile and filled with bad faith attacks

5) I like Liz and she's better than pretty much everybody in the field. Was hoping she'd run back in 2015 but there are obvious differences breh.

Bernie has made it clear he won't play footsie with the CAP and Third Way world. If Bernie was getting boosted by these consultants who's politics are about keeping a job or was taking private meetings with uber wealthy, I would have to bush him
 
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