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How you figure that? By supporting the candidate that has the best chance at beating Trump? :jbhmm:. Those who really love trump will waste their vote on the likes of Sanders and Warren who would get destroyed in the General.
Sanders is up between 5-10 points on Trump depending on the poll. Almost as safe a bet as Biden. Now Warren is a little shakier, I'll give you that.
 

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How you figure that? By supporting the candidate that has the best chance at beating Trump? :jbhmm:. Those who really love trump will waste their vote on the likes of Sanders and Warren who would get destroyed in the General.

He is clearly not the guy you are dreaming him up to be. The two debates have made that blatantly obvious. In fact, this is the same stunt the GOP tried with Mitt Romney. You saw how well that worked.
 

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Hillary was still a better candidate than Bernie.

I love how you all act like Bernie was going to beat Trump had he won the nomination. If he really had it in the bag like that, why is he trying to fight off Warren and Harris this time around, and still getting washed by another member of Obama’s cabinet again?
Breh,
You are just denying facts. I’m not the biggest Bernie fan, but ever poll in 2016 had Bernie doing better against Trump than Hillary. Especially in the Rust Belt. Hillary’s trade record hurt her in those states. Also Her support of the 94 Crime Bill helped to depress Black turnout In Michigan and Wisconsin. Biden Trade record is the exact same as Hillary record. His record with Black issues is even worse than Hillary’s record. Can Biden beat Trump? Yes, but Trump can also beat Biden. The argument that Biden is the most electable is nonsense.
 

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Bernie would have won lol

He was WELL outside the margin of error in the states that hillary blew in the mid west vs trump, wouldn't have taken a vacation in the Hamptons in the middle of August 2016 because he thought he had it in the bag and would have a made a stark contrast of trump's fake populism. Not to mention Hillary's team wanted Trump so... They Always Wanted Trump

and there are different rules for voting in the primary/general. it's not same as saying oh since he lost the primary so he would have lost the general. all 50 states are open

and yeah there are more candidates this time around so if other people weren't in the race they'd be doing slightly better. it's not just a bernie thing. plus bernie, warren and harris are fighting over different voters according to several polls. their bases are different
 

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Breh,
You are just denying facts. I’m not the biggest Bernie fan, but ever poll in 2016 had Bernie doing better against Trump than Hillary. Especially in the Rust Belt. Hillary’s trade record hurt her in those states. Also Her support of the 94 Crime Bill helped to depress Black turnout In Michigan and Wisconsin. Biden Trade record is the exact same as Hillary record. His record with Black issues is even worse than Hillary’s record. Can Biden beat Trump? Yes, but Trump can also beat Biden. The argument that Biden is the most electable is nonsense.
What facts am I denying? If Bernie was the better candidate, he would have been the nominee. The majority of those voting during the primaries also didn’t agree with Bernie. Those are FACTS.

You want to point to polls when it comes to Bernie and Hillary, but want to call those same polls nonsense when it says Biden is the most electable. You can’t have it both ways breh.
 

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Yes.... thing is Dems was pushing Hillary as it was her turn.. it wasn’t, it never was that’s the issue

Yeah, so by having the DNC and her surrogates put out the word 'it's her turn no other primary candidates need apply' and not realizing how unpopular she was herself. She laid out the red carpet for a Trump presidency.
 

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What facts am I denying? If Bernie was the better candidate, he would have been the nominee. The majority of those voting during the primaries also didn’t agree with Bernie. Those are FACTS.

You want to point to polls when it comes to Bernie and Hillary, but want to call those same polls nonsense when it says Biden is the most electable. You can’t have it both ways breh.
In hindsight we did find out Hillary bailed out the DNC financially and was able to dictate primary strategy of the DNC against her opponent. So it wasn't exactly on the up and up.
 

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Says more about our processes and government that two dem presidential candidates won the popular vote and not the election...she’s not the cause of that.

I mean all candidates know the game, winning the popular vote isn't it. You bare some responsibility losing to a political novice and doofus like Trump. Everyone was sure it was a slam dunk and she missed the slam dunk.
 
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