2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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the polls are pretty clear unless you wanna play dumb
Bernie and Biden have not gained any points since announcing either campaign.
Warren and Harris are crawling to the top.
Thats the story.
WHOA 
Uncle Phil 36
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I agree, Democrats better be careful. If Trump runs against a candidate advocating for open borders, it’s a wrap
You think we’d have this family separation policy if McCain was president. You think he’d be embarrassing the US all over the world? You think these racists would be emboldened ? Lol I don’t think he’d pull out of the Iran nuclear deal that has us at the brink of war.
Guys....
John McCain died in Aug 2018. The Trump separation policy had started as early as October 2017. Please find me the Ending Family Separation bill sponsored by John McCain.
Secondly John McCain tapped Sarah Palin as his VP. The female version of Trump. John McCain courted the same evangelical leadership that hosted the russians and led the fight against civil rights.
John McCain would've never even signed the Iran nuclear deal!
These presidential primary conversations are complete mind warps.
Hillary is further to the center than Bernie. She's often called a centrists, a neoliberal and a neoconservative.
Not surprising for a centrists or moderate independent or a blue dog to vote for a white man over black man if leftists are describing Hillary accurately.
the next guy
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Polls are hype and gross. Trying to create a horse race for ratings.
The point again, 2 yrs later, is that the idea that Bernie supporters tanked the election is an excuse with no data to back it up. It's a Trumpian falsehood that Hillary supporters won't let go of. This counterpoint is more important because Democrats really believe that they are above Trumpian logic.
We can sit here and agree that some Bernie supporters still believe the primary was rigged - ironically a point that Warren even supported at one time (Warren walks back claim Democratic primary was rigged).
However, you guys still believe a litany of falsehoods about the 2016 election that extend BEYOND Bernie because y'all have spent the last 2 years stuck in a single day:
- Y'all still use national polls to decide the winner of presidential elections when the election is decided by state vote count
- Y'all still don't understand that MI, PA, WI, and NC are the only states that matter in 2020
- Y'all still don't acknowledge that Hillary lost NC and NC elected a democratic governor
- Y'all still don't acknowledge that Hillary lost PA and PA elected a democratic AG
- Y'all still don't want to acknowledge that Wisconsin turnout was the lowest in decades and that the black turnout was paltry (don't worry we just lost the supreme court seat too!)
- Y'all stilll don't want to acknowledge that MI hadn't been won by a republican presidential candidate in 3 decades AND that dems in the state houses won in 2014, 2016, and 2018.
- Nor do you guys want to acknowledge that Bernie campaigned endlessly for Hillary after the primaries.
Y'all just moved from Russia frenzy to presidential frenzy. It's crazy. I don't care about who y'all like. Just stop being wrong about shyt.
shyt these polls were very accurate.
I remember when this shyt happened.
Maybe I need to pay attention to polls this early more
The child separations began even earlier, when Sessions visited San Diego, in fact, and announced the DOJ would be charging everyone caught, at the federal level. He did a presser right in Imperial Beach, in March 2017, I want to say.
EditL May 2017, was when separations began. He overruled existing DOJ policy with a memo.
EditL May 2017, was when separations began. He overruled existing DOJ policy with a memo.
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
You know what? I'm writing in Jeb.shyt these polls were very accurate.
I remember when this shyt happened.
Maybe I need to pay attention to polls this early more
I hope people understand that focusing on presidential elections leads to shyt like this.