2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Pressure]

The optics of that

 

[the next guy]

Lol

 

[tru_m.a.c]

What rubs people the wrong way about Bernie is too many of his supporters saying they won't vote (or will vote Trump) if he doesn't win the primary. Which isn't really something you see supporters of other candidates say, at least not often. And no, it's not a myth -

Bernie or bust: The Sanders supporters who will back Trump if their man isn't the Democratic nominee

HOLY fukkN shyt

MORE BERNIE PRIMARY VOTERS VOTED FOR HILLARY IN 2016 THAN HILLARY PRIMARY VOTERS VOTED FOR OBAMA IN 2008

WE'VE SAID THIS REPEATED-fukkN-LY



Even this article says the 20-30pt %'s are exaggerated but Bernie primary supporters had a better turnout.

this gets fukkn annoying....IT'S 2019 AND YOU nikkaS ARE STILL REPEATING shyt THAT WAS DEBUNKED TWO WHOLE fukkN YEARS AGO.

But somehow you guys are better than Trump reporters

This is why I avoid these fukkn threads. 2019. Still repeating 2017 myths. You're not ready for 2020 b. Please don't vote.

 

[the next guy]

Hunter Biden smh

 

[AnonymityX1000]

HOLY fukkN shyt

MORE BERNIE PRIMARY VOTERS VOTED FOR HILLARY IN 2016 THAN HILLARY PRIMARY VOTERS VOTED FOR OBAMA IN 2008

WE'VE SAID THIS REPEATED-fukkN-LY



Even this article says the 20-30pt %'s are exaggerated but Bernie primary supporters had a better turnout.

this gets fukkn annoying....IT'S 2019 AND YOU nikkaS ARE STILL REPEATING shyt THAT WAS DEBUNKED TWO WHOLE fukkN YEARS AGO.

But somehow you guys are better than Trump reporters

This is why I avoid these fukkn threads. 2019. Still repeating 2017 myths. You're not ready for 2020 b. Please don't vote.

Dude calls for unity but only behind the establishment. His game is clear as crystal.

 

[storyteller]

What rubs people the wrong way about Bernie is too many of his supporters saying they won't vote (or will vote Trump) if he doesn't win the primary. Which isn't really something you see supporters of other candidates say, at least not often. And no, it's not a myth -

Bernie or bust: The Sanders supporters who will back Trump if their man isn't the Democratic nominee

I hit this narrative every time it comes up because it's not a myth but it's pretty damned common for any candiddate's constituency. It only seems to be held against Bernie. Here's coverage from the 2008 primary:

If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain

We can also look at the actual results of the subsequent elections like the article below does. More Clinton supporters turned on Obama than Bernie voters turned on Clinton. The ones who just plan to stay home are typically the Independents and new voters who only came into the fold because of Bernie to begin with. So it may not be a myth, but it's a norm.

NPR Choice page

Party seems to have had something to do with it — Sanders-Trump voters were much less likely than Sanders-Clinton or Sanders-third party voters to have been Democrats.

A more important caveat, perhaps, is that other statistics suggest that this level of "defection" isn't all that out of the ordinary. Believing that all those Sanders voters somehow should have been expected to not vote for Trump may be to misunderstand how primary voters behave.

For example, Schaffner tells NPR that around 12 percent of Republican primary voters (including 34 percent of Ohio Gov. John Kasich voters and 11 percent of Florida Sen. Marco Rubio voters) ended up voting for Clinton. And according to one 2008 study, around 25 percent of Clinton primary voters in that election ended up voting for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in the general. (In addition, the data showed 13 percent of McCain primary voters ended up voting for Obama, and 9 percent of Obama voters ended up voting for McCain — perhaps signaling something that swayed voters between primaries and the general election, or some amount of error in the data, or both.)

 

[storyteller]

“These numbers only affirm what the senator has said many times: people don’t like insurance companies, they like their doctors and their hospitals,” Sanders’ campaign said of the data in an email to Morning Consult. “Despite what the pharmaceutical and insurance industries will tell you, Medicare for All is the only proposal that gives Americans the freedom to control their own futures — change jobs, start a family, start a business — and keep their doctor.

Several polls have demonstrated that support for Medicare for All plummets when Americans learn the system would replace employer-sponsored coverage with one sweeping plan, forcing single-payer supporters to go on the defensive to alleviate concerns from voters. But as candidates attempt to persuade voters that Medicare for All would not require diminishing the role of private insurers — further adding to confusion among the electorate about what exactly the system would entail — the new data suggests that the consequences of that argument can be mitigated by clarifying that losing private insurers would not affect access to preferred providers.

This is great! Because the public option hype tends to be about people being able to keep their insurance plans if they want, no one gives a damn about that. It's their doctors that matter, not the insurance provider.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Dat Migo]

Compare voting for McCain to voting for Trump

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Compare voting for McCain to voting for Trump

What's the difference policy wise? We would definitely be in more overseas conflicts if McCaii was president.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

What's the difference policy wise? We would definitely be in more overseas conflicts if McCaii was president.

He’s dead.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

He’s dead.

Thanks.

 

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[Berniewood Hogan]

I actually will only vote for Bernie, but only because it bothers you so much. I was going to support whoever the Dem nominee is, but you've changed my mind. So you're to blame, really.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Thanks.

No problem, Fam. I got your back.