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Wondering how the Harris-Warren dynamic plays out. Bernie is going to flame out, let’s just be real folks. Biden will likely stick around in the top 3, but I really feel it’s these two ladies who are definitely going to pull squarely into the 2 and 3 spot, one of them may be the leader, but they’re going to pull from one another. Kamala May make bigger inroads with blacks while Warren captures the college/suburban whites. They might actually end up making it so that Biden does win :sadcam:

I also wonder how they’ll treat each other in debates
Bernie’s approval ratings up are up in overnight polls after the debates. You guys keep saying stuff the numbers don’t support. Kamala Harris’ rise directly hurts Warren. They both pull from the same pool, which is why Sanders has a higher net favorability gain of 2.9 after the second debate to Warren’s 1.8 despite the fact that she won hers. Kamala Harris is the second favorite candidate of Warren voters according to the most recent pre-debate polls. In other words, people who want a woman. Harris’ rise hurts her more than anyone else. Harris takes from Biden and Warren but not Sanders. The second choice of Biden voters is Bernie. 1 strong debate showing and he will be in poll position for Iowa and New Hampshire. Warren will need Bernie to fukk up. Bernie voters are voting based on ideology, which is why Warren is now their number 2. She needs Bernie to fall and they go back 25 years and will not attack each other at any point.
 
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That's the problem. Higher Learning is an echo chamber of liberalism and anti-Trump. If you deviate away from everyone else's shared opinion then you're considered a troll or Trump supporter. This has to stop.

I believe if illegals have been here for 5 or more years and they not causing a problem, then let them stay and try to live out their dreams of taking care of their families. But they shouldn't get paid healthcare, any discounts or help on college tuition, etc. They shouldn't have the same benefits as citizens until they become citizens.
No need to explain your stance. It's obvious the Trump accusation is the actions of the desperate trying to control the discussion because their talking points have failed
...let an American go oversee and demand the same as what these folks advocate illegals to have here , these same hypocritics will shyt on them talmbowt "typical arrogant Americans, thinking the world owes you something"
 

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Bernie’s approval ratings up are up in overnight polls after the debates. You guys keep saying stuff the numbers don’t support. Kamala Harris’ rise directly hurts Warren. They both pull from the same pool, which is why Sanders has a higher net favorability gain of 2.9 after the second debate to Warren’s 1.8 despite the fact that she won hers. Kamala Harris is the second favorite candidate of Warren voters according to the most recent pre-debate polls. In other words, people who want a woman. Harris’ rise hurts her more than anyone else. Harris takes from Biden and Warren but not Sanders. The second choice of Biden voters is Bernie. 1 strong debate showing and he will be in poll position for Iowa and New Hampshire. Warren will need Bernie to fukk up. Bernie voters are voting based on ideology, which is why Warren is now their number 2. She needs Bernie to fall and they go back 25 years and will not attack each other at any point.
1. what poll are you referencing, honestly, these conversations have no basis without sharing a source given the 8 million polls available

2. i'm not looking at short term, i wholly don't believe bernie goes the distance, well i expect him to be in the final few, but i don't see him being the #1 or 2. his popularity is based on his momentum from 2016, warren and harris have to build their candidacies "from scratch", there is an entire year for them to do so. i don't see bernie playing out well across the wider dem electorate
 

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What are open borders and medical for illegals a starting point for tho? I get M4A opening up a public option, what is the incremental step to open borders? We already got states that provide amnesty if you’ve been here awhile, in addition to anchor babies. Like what is the fight there?
Hospitals already take in illegal immigrants. That cost has to be passed along. If the government is the only game in town and they're paying for it anyway it makes sense to cover it.

But it's the starting point to the the cac mamba argument of, "What about all these illegals in the ER driving up my Healthcare cost and wait times?"

Open borders is a right wing talking point and a dishonest strawman here. Even Julian Castro, by far the most liberal of the candidates on immigration isn't even for open border.
 

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1. what poll are you referencing, honestly, these conversations have no basis without sharing a source given the 8 million polls available

2. i'm not looking at short term, i wholly don't believe bernie goes the distance, well i expect him to be in the final few, but i don't see him being the #1 or 2. his popularity is based on his momentum from 2016, warren and harris have to build their candidacies "from scratch", there is an entire year for them to do so. i don't see bernie playing out well across the wider dem electorate
 
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Hospitals already take in illegal immigrants. That cost has to be passed along. If the government is the only game in town and they're paying for it anyway it makes sense to cover it.

But it's the starting point to the the cac mamba argument of, "What about all these illegals in the ER driving up my Healthcare cost and wait times?"

Open borders is a right wing talking point and a dishonest strawman here. Even Julian Castro, by far the most liberal of the candidates on immigration isn't even for open border.
pure bullshyter. This clown always have to compare folks to others so to gain sympathy daps
Now cac mamba is the reference to hide your weak azz argument that didn't even come close to answering his question

"Open borders" doesn't reflect just the condition of a border wall but also the efforts of scammers like you to undermine the enforcement of laws that protect the borders

Hospitals emergency rooms is a scam for them to charge ridiculous and inconsistent amounts for services, depending on who is paying

If you were truly against illegal immigration (which obviously you not, but I'll entertain) the hospital and law enforcement would be the most useful tools to gain info about them, so to deport and deter others
For citizens, depending on the type of injury or admissions during therapy session with psychologist, you finna get reported to law enforcement. But with illegals, mums the word

You and your self serving kind isn't fooling anyone. And it will be your kinds' fault once Trump wins reelection
 

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pure bullshyter. This clown always have to compare folks to others so to gain sympathy daps
Now cac mamba is the reference to hide your weak azz argument that didn't even come close to answering his question

"Open borders" doesn't reflect just the condition of a border wall but also the efforts of scammers like you to undermine the enforcement of laws that protect the borders

Hospitals emergency rooms is a scam for them to charge ridiculous and inconsistent amounts for services, depending on who is paying

If you were truly against illegal immigration (which obviously you not, but I'll entertain) the hospital and law enforcement would be the most useful tools to gain info about them, so to deport and deter others
For citizens, depending on the type of injury or admissions during therapy session with psychologist, you finna get reported to law enforcement. But with illegals, mums the word

You and your self serving kind isn't fooling anyone. And it will be your kinds' fault once Trump wins reelection
The actual discussion surrounding open borders, which isn't factual, is a result floating the idea of removing the criminal penalty for border crossings.

It's a direct response to the mass inhumane incarceration going on in tent cities, private facilities, and camps around the country right now.

And yes, that is. A starting point for any negoations for maintaining a humane prison system as laid out in the constitution.

Regardless of whether or not a hospital refers an immigrant to ICE they still have to provide service at the ER. That isn't free.

All that other rambling means nothing and just that random cac talk you do.
 
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The actual discussion surrounding open borders, which isn't factual, is a result floating the idea of removing the criminal penalty for border crossings.
It's a direct response to the mass inhumane incarceration going on in tent cities, private facilities, and camps around the country right now.
And yes, that is. A starting point for any negoations for maintaining a humane prison system as laid out in the constitution.
Regardless of whether or not a hospital refers an immigrant to ICE they still have to provide service at the ER. That isn't free.
All that other rambling means nothing and just that random cac talk you do.
Trying to merge illegal immigration support with incarceration shows how low of a disingenuous scum you are
Recall the same Dems were against illegal immigration while incarcerating Black folks with no fawks given

The tent cities, which will now be permanent fixture, is the result of using the innate delay of courts to gain access and weaponizing asylum
so stop the fake constitutionalist persona, you not fooling anyone

the ER, like other municipal services isn't free and should be only accessible for those who pay taxes. All others should get serviced, reported and deported....that's how you remain humane while upholding your laws
POS like you only care about your dem party winning at all cost
 
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