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his plan was done on a paper napkin with no chance of winning. its not even remotely serious. that's why warren does better.

You didn't even realize Warren's healthcare policies were following the Sanders map breh. You should just not talk about his policy because you don't know anything about it and make no effort to know what's in his plans.
 

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The problem with his observation is that it's a bit in the silo of politics. The average voter can't connect Sanders policies to the first night. Honestly his policy ideas didn't really land last night to the average person. They sounded macro and he didn't get the benefit of the moderators saying "he had a plan" like they did for Warren.

Not a knock on Bernie but the stage was too crowded.
 

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Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison endorsed Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ Democratic primary bid in the 2020 election on Friday, arguing that Sanders has the principles and record needed to take on the country’s growing economic and social disparities.

“The most pressing problem of our time is inequality,” Ellison told HuffPost in an interview. “For working-class people, they really can’t thrive and grow in this economy. And Bernie has the best prescriptions now and over the course of time has demonstrated the most consistent commitment to working families.”

Ellison, a former co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and deputy chair of the Democratic National Committee, attended the first Democratic presidential primary debates in Miami this week.

Sanders’ influence was evident even on the first night when he was not present, Ellison argued, noting that every candidate had to respond to ideas like single-payer health care and tuition-free public college that Sanders brought into the mainstream with his 2016 presidential run.

“The wealthy in our society are accumulating more and more wealth which they use to influence government and corrupt democracy,” Ellison said. ”We need somebody with the spine to confront it.”

Ellison’s endorsement of Sanders is not surprising. He is a longstanding political and ideological ally of Sanders, becoming the lead co-sponsor of single-payer health care legislation ― commonly known as Medicare for All ― in the House prior to his departure in 2018. The then-Minnesota congressman was one of the first and only members of Congress to endorse Sanders in the 2016 election cycle. Sanders backed Ellison’s unsuccessful run for DNC chair in 2017, as well as his successful bid for Minnesota’s top law enforcement post in November.

Ellison nonetheless adds an influential left-wing voice to Sanders’ team as competition escalates between Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts for the support of progressive primary voters.

Ellison said he had great respect for Warren, who he called “a wonderful candidate.”

“I’m very glad that she’s in the race,” he added.

Ellison, who is African American, became the first Muslim member of Congress in 2007.

He declined to make commitments about hitting the campaign trail for Sanders, citing his job as Minnesota’s top law enforcement official. But he vouched for Sanders’ credentials as a champion of racial justice and religious tolerance.

“Bernie was getting arrested fighting for fair housing in the ’60s ― there are photos of it,” he said. “Bernie has a consistent history.”

He also said he believes Sanders’ policies and record should be more important to voters than his identity as a white man.


“Let’s face the facts ― and this is me talking, not Bernie ― [Supreme Court Justice] Clarence Thomas is black,” Ellison said, referring to Thomas’ conservative jurisprudence. “If all you want is diversity, that doesn’t necessarily tell you what the person stands for. I’d love to see a diverse group of people leading the country, but the most important thing is what that person stands for.”
 

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Wondering how the Harris-Warren dynamic plays out. Bernie is going to flame out, let’s just be real folks. Biden will likely stick around in the top 3, but I really feel it’s these two ladies who are definitely going to pull squarely into the 2 and 3 spot, one of them may be the leader, but they’re going to pull from one another. Kamala May make bigger inroads with blacks while Warren captures the college/suburban whites. They might actually end up making it so that Biden does win :sadcam:

I also wonder how they’ll treat each other in debates
 

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:francis::snoop: Dems shot themselves in the foot with open borders and paying for healthcare of undocumented immigrants.

Hopefully as the field shortens, they tightened up their stance on this issue.

Trump basically won the election last night with Dems confirming they would do this. All he has to do is run the debate as an ad.
 

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:francis::snoop: Dems shot themselves in the foot with open borders and paying for healthcare of undocumented immigrants.

Hopefully as the field shortens, they tightened up their stance on this issue.

Trump basically won the election last night with Dems confirming they would do this. All he has to do is run the debate as an ad.
Just vote for Trump and stop with the crocodile tears and concern trolling :camtook:
 

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Just vote for Trump and stop with the crocodile tears and concern trolling :camtook:
That's the problem. Higher Learning is an echo chamber of liberalism and anti-Trump. If you deviate away from everyone else's shared opinion then you're considered a troll or Trump supporter. This has to stop.

I believe if illegals have been here for 5 or more years and they not causing a problem, then let them stay and try to live out their dreams of taking care of their families. But they shouldn't get paid healthcare, any discounts or help on college tuition, etc. They shouldn't have the same benefits as citizens until they become citizens.
 

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i'm tired of the trump trolling too, but i feel him, i don't support those stances either.
None of those positions are ever going to become law.

When proposals like Medicare for all that abolishes private insurance are brought up with criticism about how they aren't going to happen the response is its a starting point for negotiations.

Why is this different?
 

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That's the problem. Higher Learning is an echo chamber of liberalism and anti-Trump. If you deviate away from everyone else's shared opinion then you're considered a troll or Trump supporter. This has to stop.

I believe if illegals have been here for 5 or more years and they not causing a problem, then let them stay and try to live out their dreams of taking care of their families. But they shouldn't get paid healthcare, any discounts or help on college tuition, etc. They shouldn't have the same benefits as citizens until they become citizens.
Universal Healthcare means universal health care.

And you're still paying less than you are now regardless of who it covers.
 
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