scott walker and jeb were leading the republican polls this time in 2015
think for yourself. no one likes a front runner
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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think for yourself. no one likes a front runner
i am thinking for myself
after 2016 i think its safe to say a white man has the best chance of beating trump. one with name recognition, and one who cant be smeared as a socialistif biden had run in 2016, napoleons russia thread wouldnt exist
im actually voting for warren over bernie at this poi t
her campaign is much more articulate
exactly, he did it for the same EXACT reason biden is a threat to trump in 2016
and he was right
told you
Secure Da Bag
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In lieu of that, Fran can just tell her people to donate $5 to Warren. I'm sure that would be helpful.
I'm more Warren but I think people are overstating some of her more recent proposals. They are positions that most Democrats support, and she just puts a wonkish spin on it and says "I got a plan." It's brilliant marketing and helps control the news cycle, but the average person isn't reading those things nor is it really a distinguishing point. As for the people saying Sanders is out, you sound nuts. He is still more popular than anyone running outside of Biden. And he will have the money to run forever. Last, there is a strong contingent of people who are supporting Warren just to dilute the vote that Sanders got and will get so that we then have to rally around a moderate. I want Liz to win for her own sake, but a lot of people are transparent. You don't go from strongly for Hillary and excited about her to strongly pro-Warren.im actually voting for warren over bernie at this poi t
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
lmfao if you believe this garbage hot take
here's the truth:
60 grand base teacher pay? i'm sorry, but warren doesn't have a plan for that. 
You can't just post something like this without context. That headline is ridiculous. Sanders is basically saying his policy would be what the NAACP ratified in 2016 with a moratorium on charter schools. This is the whole charter school debate and the writer's wife is a charter school lobbyist. Come on man.
Bernie did well at the Fox News townhall. Other than that, he has always been average when taken off his stump speech. Also, he's gotten pretty aggressive questions. One could very easily come at Elizabeth Warren and be like, "You had the opportunity to run in 2016, and chose not to when the issues of today were just as important then. It appeared that you towed the party line. Who is to say that you won't tow the party line as president when many members of your party are clearly against what you're espousing?"bernie needs to start cleaning it up a little. he looks like shyt in these town halls
King Kreole
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I don't think it's fair to say Liz is rolling out standard Democrat proposals. She has the most transformative agenda in the entire Democratic field, and what's truly incredible about it is how she's taking broad, moral concepts and turning them into tangible, actionable plans. I've never seen anyone do that as well as she's doing it right now. Whether or not the average person is reading every sentence of her proposals is secondary to the fact that she's making them widely available and channeling public sentiment/energy towards real, undiluted goals. She's not just hiding behind the soaring rhetoric, she's showing her work. She's bridging the divide between rhetoric and praxis. To say that she's just putting a wonkish spin on standard concepts and her campaign approach is mainly marketing-driven is wildly downplaying the importance of transparency and, like, actual policy. I can understand the impetus behind spurning intelligent and well thought out plans in the wake of neoliberalism's bloodless wonkery, but to then flip 180 degrees and castigate someone for being prepared and aggressive in the breadth and depth of their policy proposals is dumb.
What's needed is someone who has both the desire/heart to remake the state in a progressive mold, and the skills/abilities to actually do so. Liz is the only one in the race who has demonstrated both.
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!