this is the most try hard statement ever...from propaganda to outright lies to blatantly incorrect, there is definitely such thing as bad information.
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Yeah. I'm predicting Biden wins the nom, people gonna decide not to vote (both sides, etc.) and Trump will get reelected.
I'm not a Biden fan but I'm really not sure it's worth four more years of Trump just to "teach the Dems a lesson".
Yeah. I'm predicting Biden wins the nom, people gonna decide not to vote (both sides, etc.) and Trump will get reelected.
I'm not a Biden fan but I'm really not sure it's worth four more years of Trump just to "teach the Dems a lesson".
that would be interestingThe thing is, we saw in 2018 that all sorts of candidates can win. Look at the Midwest. Minnesota just elected a Muslim Sanders supporter as AG. Michigan had a governor’s race pulled to the left. Wisconsin voted in a Dem governor in a non-election year. A Democrat just won in Arizona. Moreover, Biden can be attacked in a way that other Democrats cannot. Every single attack Trump wages on Hillary has more credence with Biden. In my opinion, he is actually the worst candidate to put up against Trump and would depress the vote. Oldest Democrats also backed Hillary over Obama and even older black voters did it initially. They were wrong. Hillary would not have brought out the turnout that Obama did. Older Democratic voters have been wrong about every presidential candidate since 2000. If they truly are all in on Biden right now, you should be worried.
really don't think you can compare state/district reps to the bridge that has to be built nationally. and obama was a 1 in a million, a lot more to his ascent than politics, even when he was way behind, people knew obama was "special" ever since his 2004 speech (an those who were really tapped in, even before that). and i'm not sure what you mean by they were wrong, just because the nominee didn't win doesn't mean they were wrong...no party will win every election. biden is a problem, but a lot of people are concerned about electability, not just older voters.
Yes, if you do not nominate the strongest candidate then you are wrong. Sanders was polling ahead of Hillary and Trump in the exact states that cost Dems the presidency in 2016. Hillary didn’t win a single state that wasn’t solid blue so there’s no basis for saying Bernie would have lost moderate Dems somewhere. Obama was one in a million but we all could see it at our young age and so did progressives. Older people wanted a Clinton. Hillary running against McCain does not equal a Democratic supermajority. Their problem is this belief in winning over moderate republicans that has not happened in over a quarter century. And yes I do believe you can compare state races because that’s usually where Democrats lose to Republicans because they are not engaged and mobilized. Also, those states nearly went Trump (Minnesota) or had been voting Republican for like a decade (Michigan and Wisconsin). Those same coalitions are what you need in presidential years. Granted, there are states like WV that would never vote a Democratic president but would do so for senate. But I’m not referencing them for a reason.
Biden is a walking talking vote suppressor. He has so much material that can be used against him to dampen turn out, and best believe it will all be used. What was done and said about the Clintons will look light in comparison. It's good all of this is coming out now though, so people will know ahead of time what they are going to get in the general election.Yeah. I'm predicting Biden wins the nom, people gonna decide not to vote (both sides, etc.) and Trump will get reelected.
I'm not a Biden fan but I'm really not sure it's worth four more years of Trump just to "teach the Dems a lesson".
nothing biden has done, or can do, will negate the fact that he's running against donald trump
Dems playing purity politics against TRUMP like he’s some ultra clean candidate.nothing biden has done, or can do, will negate the fact that he's running against donald trump
i still say biden gets 100% of democratic turnout, plus enough trump voters to win it
