2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Purity politics isn’t a real thing. People have the right to advocate for whatever candidate they want and take a stand wherever they chose. The only people ever crying purity politics are the ones who get their way. 2016 scaring the shyt out of that group might help the progressive cause long term.Dems playing purity politics against TRUMP like he’s some ultra clean candidate.
awful take, my guynothing biden has done, or can do, will negate the fact that he's running against donald trump
i still say biden gets 100% of democratic turnout, plus enough trump voters to win it
he's arguably wose than hillary. or just about the same
dude was for all the trade deals that hurt hillary in the midwest
it's your optics that are awful. there's a reason biden is beating trump and all the other dems in the polls; he reassures on the fence republicans and moderates, he was obama's VP, etc
you wanna fukkin win in 2020? you probably need a white guy that steals enough trump voters, and with the dems falling in line and voting for him....there's your victory
or fukk around and run pocahontas
i like my approach better, ONLY given the reality of the situation in the 2020 election. yeah, it's cute that warren wants to forgive everyone's debt until they call her a commie, and america gets wet feet about electing a woman againholy shyt...
nah famo. also these polls where he has 30+ leads dont sample any people 18-49, no independents, and everyone is way old. In addition, they sample less than 1000 pplit's your optics that are awful. there's a reason biden is beating trump and all the other dems in the polls; he reassures on the fence republicans and moderates, he was obama's VP, etc
you wanna fukkin win in 2020? you probably need a white guy that steals enough trump voters, and with the dems falling in line and voting for him....there's your victory
or fukk around and run pocahontas
this moderate republican bit doesnt work. and hasnt worked for decades
we gonna act like clinton and obama were touting themselves as bernie sanders-like candidateslook, im not saying im right based on facts. my opinion doesnt mean shyt
im just some dikkhead on a message boardbut if you think that america is gonna do a complete 180 on trump, in the middle of a good economy, you're fukkin crazy
only pundits think the economy is good
look, im not saying im right based on facts. my opinion doesnt mean shyt
but if you think that america is gonna do a complete 180 on trump, in the middle of a good economy, you're fukkin crazy
regular ppl know it's not.
it's up to the dem candidate to tell the people that it's not, and give reasons why
Obama was acting like a sanders-like figure for sure tbh. Dude ran on Change and "changing the way the game is played." He campaigned like a populist and governed like a centrist
OK, then obama left us an even shyttier economy. is that your position?
the economy obama left is relatively the same (FOR NOW)
but regular ppl are hurting
Half the country makes 30k or less
74 percent lives paycheck to paycheck
We are in another bubble
There's a student loan debt crisis and credit card debt crisis going on right now
this was happening under Obama also
The nice jobs lost because of GW Bush were replaced with low-paying jobs. Its been this way for years
Trust me, the economy is NOT good
just wanted to check your consistency
most of the main players in HL exposed themselves as partisan hacks. touting what obama left trump, but then deciding that trumps slightly better economy actually isnt good
no point in lyingjust wanted to check your consistency
most of the main players in HL exposed themselves as partisan hacks. touting what obama left trump, but then deciding that trumps slightly better economy actually isnt good
we havent had an objectively good economy since the early 2000s
The Technology 202: Andrew Yang says Uber, Lyft protests show why it's urgent Democrats debate future of work
By Cat Zakrzewski
May 8 at 9:14 AM
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Striking Uber and Lyft drivers protest Uber's decision to cut per-mile pay from 80 cents to 60 cents, outside the Uber Hub in Redondo Beach, California, U.S., March 25, 2019. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson
Democrat Andrew Yang is running for president to make sure his party debates the future of work — and he says the Uber and Lyft driver protests that could disrupt thousands of commutes today shows why that's urgent.
Entrepreneur Yang, a long shot for the nation's top office, says the drivers staging the global strike have legitimate complaints. The lack of job stability for independent contractors who do not have the same benefits and protections as traditional employees is a big reason Yang's top campaign issue is creating a universal basic income that would provide every American adult with a baseline income of $1,000 per month. He's seeking to protect gig economy workers whose income fluctuates, or those whose jobs are at high risk of being automated.
“We need to stop living in a fantasy land where we think these companies are supposed to treat us like family members and employ us for years,” Yang said in an interview. “Their incentives are in the opposite direction.”
The surge of driver activism ahead of Uber's long-awaited initial public offering this week could put pressure on other 2020 presidential Democrats, who have largely been talking about the impact of technology on the economy in broad strokes, to define their positions on the gig economy.
Few have offered proposals as specific as Yang's about how to bolster a workforce whose benefits and other protections are no longer tied to their jobs. And the political pressure is unlikely to end soon: The expected initial public offerings of other companies such as Airbnb and Postmates are drawing greater attention to the future of work.
Yang — who likens Democrats' discussion about how technology is changing work so far to “hand waving” — is likely to get his shot to press the issue on the debate stage, as he qualifies with both polling and donor requirements. “There needs to be a much more robust debate,” Yang told me.
As Uber and Lyft seek lofty valuations from Wall Street, much of their promise to investors relies on spending less on human labor, and over the long term, replacing those human drivers with computers. That's why Yang's proposal for a universal baseline income would be paid for by companies benefiting most from automation.
Yang thinks the automation of millions of manufacturing jobs helped propel Trump's victory in 2016. He said if the party doesn't start getting serious about debating technology's impact on the economy, “we may be destined to have history repeat itself.”
The Trump administration's own actions could also force Democrats to define their own stances. The Labor Department recently affirmed that workers at one gig economy company were contractors — which could give a boost to companies seeking to defend the status quo.
“The Trump administration did those workers a disservice,” Yang told me.
Yang isn't the only 2020 presidential candidate weighing in on today's strike — it's an issue that resonates with progressives who support worker protections such as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Sanders said in a tweet earlier this week that he stands with the striking drivers. He criticized Uber for not offering drivers more money, and he has previously introduced legislation that would make it possible for gig economy contractors to join unions, known as the Workplace Democracy Act.
“This legislation prohibits employers from misclassifying their employees as independent contractors and would protect workers by ensuring companies do not deny or delay a first contract with workers who have unionized, protecting their right to secondary boycotts and picketing,” Sarah Ford, a spokeswoman for his campaign, told me in a statement. “Bernie understands when the United States has strong protections for unions, we have a strong middle class.”
But Yang warned that giving drivers collective bargaining rights would only be “one piece of the puzzle.” He said unions have weakened over the past 50 years, and that alone would not solve the drivers' problems.
He noted companies no longer have the incentives in place to give workers broad benefits, and policymakers need to adapt to that reality and make it possible for benefits typically associated with employers — like health care — available to all Americans.
“It's very hard to turn back the clock,” Yang told me in an interview. “We have to stop pretending it's the 1960s.”
By Cat Zakrzewski
May 8 at 9:14 AM
Ctrl + N
Striking Uber and Lyft drivers protest Uber's decision to cut per-mile pay from 80 cents to 60 cents, outside the Uber Hub in Redondo Beach, California, U.S., March 25, 2019. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson
Democrat Andrew Yang is running for president to make sure his party debates the future of work — and he says the Uber and Lyft driver protests that could disrupt thousands of commutes today shows why that's urgent.
Entrepreneur Yang, a long shot for the nation's top office, says the drivers staging the global strike have legitimate complaints. The lack of job stability for independent contractors who do not have the same benefits and protections as traditional employees is a big reason Yang's top campaign issue is creating a universal basic income that would provide every American adult with a baseline income of $1,000 per month. He's seeking to protect gig economy workers whose income fluctuates, or those whose jobs are at high risk of being automated.
“We need to stop living in a fantasy land where we think these companies are supposed to treat us like family members and employ us for years,” Yang said in an interview. “Their incentives are in the opposite direction.”
The surge of driver activism ahead of Uber's long-awaited initial public offering this week could put pressure on other 2020 presidential Democrats, who have largely been talking about the impact of technology on the economy in broad strokes, to define their positions on the gig economy.
Few have offered proposals as specific as Yang's about how to bolster a workforce whose benefits and other protections are no longer tied to their jobs. And the political pressure is unlikely to end soon: The expected initial public offerings of other companies such as Airbnb and Postmates are drawing greater attention to the future of work.
Yang — who likens Democrats' discussion about how technology is changing work so far to “hand waving” — is likely to get his shot to press the issue on the debate stage, as he qualifies with both polling and donor requirements. “There needs to be a much more robust debate,” Yang told me.
As Uber and Lyft seek lofty valuations from Wall Street, much of their promise to investors relies on spending less on human labor, and over the long term, replacing those human drivers with computers. That's why Yang's proposal for a universal baseline income would be paid for by companies benefiting most from automation.
Yang thinks the automation of millions of manufacturing jobs helped propel Trump's victory in 2016. He said if the party doesn't start getting serious about debating technology's impact on the economy, “we may be destined to have history repeat itself.”
The Trump administration's own actions could also force Democrats to define their own stances. The Labor Department recently affirmed that workers at one gig economy company were contractors — which could give a boost to companies seeking to defend the status quo.
“The Trump administration did those workers a disservice,” Yang told me.
Yang isn't the only 2020 presidential candidate weighing in on today's strike — it's an issue that resonates with progressives who support worker protections such as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Sanders said in a tweet earlier this week that he stands with the striking drivers. He criticized Uber for not offering drivers more money, and he has previously introduced legislation that would make it possible for gig economy contractors to join unions, known as the Workplace Democracy Act.
“This legislation prohibits employers from misclassifying their employees as independent contractors and would protect workers by ensuring companies do not deny or delay a first contract with workers who have unionized, protecting their right to secondary boycotts and picketing,” Sarah Ford, a spokeswoman for his campaign, told me in a statement. “Bernie understands when the United States has strong protections for unions, we have a strong middle class.”
But Yang warned that giving drivers collective bargaining rights would only be “one piece of the puzzle.” He said unions have weakened over the past 50 years, and that alone would not solve the drivers' problems.
He noted companies no longer have the incentives in place to give workers broad benefits, and policymakers need to adapt to that reality and make it possible for benefits typically associated with employers — like health care — available to all Americans.
“It's very hard to turn back the clock,” Yang told me in an interview. “We have to stop pretending it's the 1960s.”