2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Berniewood Hogan]

Bernie is allowed to enter the public arena in a generally disheveled, unkempt state and his appearance is treated as a lovable quirk. Elizabeth Warren looks, by all objective metrics, like a totally normal and put together woman, and she's called a schoolmarm or library lady, and her appearance is held up as evidence of why she can never be President. That's pretty textbook sexism.

Elizabeth Warren makes one genuine "mistake" from literally 40 years ago that has no relevance for her current campaign for Presidency, it's held up as evidence that she's irredeemable and she must step aside. Bernie pretty consistently stumbles around issues of race and gender in the present day, he just learning and we need to support him on his journey to get better. That's pretty textbook sexism.

When you're a member of a marginalized group, you don't get second chances. You're perpetually on thin ice. Nothing is ever a mistake that you can learn and improve from, it's always evidence of a fundamental inadequacy.

I have to reiterate, I really like Bernie and believe he should be given the chance to improve on his weak spots. I would just like to see the same standard applied to Liz.

Bernie Sanders is a Jew.

At a time when Nazism is making a big comeback.

And the President of the United States says he regrets condemning murderous Nazis, believes they're his ultimate base of support, and they're convinced he's Their Guy and he's signaling to them that It's Time.

 

[Pressure]

this ain't bernie's best performance.

 

[No1]

Yeah he's more low-energy than he was during that Fox town hall

he's doing alright though, stumbling a bit here and there, but he's the frontrunner so he doesn't need to come out swinging like that

I think he's being hit a lot harder than he expected. He wasn't ready for all that. They came at son with highly specific questions. Son got hit with some shortie who said, "you want everyone to vote...so what if ol boy raped someone?"

Then got hit with reparations and then hit with Israel and Palestine. Berndawg like

 

[Pressure]

.

 

[Pressure]

:bernielol:

 

[JoogJoint]

Liz not only solely focuses on black injustices when asked about reparations, she goes out of her way to bring in racial justice when talking about other universal issues. She's the one, y'all

At first she tried it by putting Native Americans, but she straightened that sh_t out quick.

 

[JoogJoint]

Gotta send Warren a little more money. She is far and away a superior candidate to Bernie.

I donated to Bernie in the last primaries, but he's f_cking up too much with Black folks for me. Lizzy's about to take my money.

 

[JoogJoint]

this ain't bernie's best performance.

No its not

I dont think he expected to get hit this sharply tbh

I mean hes hanging in there but...idk

Yeah he's more low-energy than he was during that Fox town hall

he's doing alright though, stumbling a bit here and there, but he's the frontrunner so he doesn't need to come out swinging like that

I've noticed too. He's very low energy tonight and I don't know what's going on because he wasn't like this at the Fox News Town Hall. He was fiesty and high energy.

Hmm...

 

[Pressure]

He's old, it's late.

 

[FAH1223]

He's old, it's late.

Fox townhall was at 6 PM

9 PM tonight :bernielaugh:

 

[dtownreppin214]

I wouldn't say far and away. I'm a bigger fan of hers than his but they're in the same spectrum. She is just more wonkish than he is. I don't think there's a single policy that she would pass that he wouldn't. On the flip side, I think she is more likely to compromise on medicare for all than he would be. He's also better on foreign policy which Liz hasn't focused on. Him being a Jewish guy criticizing Israel takes away the anti-semitism smears too.

I don't think it's fair to just call her wonkish. She's also better than him at articulating how she will implement her policies. This helps ease some of the tension some have about revolutionary change and why she doesn't get labeled as crazy. For example, the way she in a professorial way explained how she would pay for the student debt cancellation by increasing taxes on ultra millionaires 2 cents on the dollar was simple to understand and reasonable.

The way she also attacks race head on is extremely endearing and a huge red flag for Bernie. I'm surprised Nina Turner hasn't slapped some sense into him.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Bernie is looking terrible out here.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I wouldn't say far and away. I'm a bigger fan of hers than his but they're in the same spectrum. She is just more wonkish than he is. I don't think there's a single policy that she would pass that he wouldn't. On the flip side, I think she is more likely to compromise on medicare for all than he would be. He's also better on foreign policy which Liz hasn't focused on. Him being a Jewish guy criticizing Israel takes away the anti-semitism smears too.

Dude. What are you talking about?

Warren would get points on the board.

Bernie is content drawing up the perfect play on the field but he wants people to keep supporting him if he never scores any points.

Remember, Warren literally created a branch of government. Thats major. Bernie can't do that.

 

[King Kreole]

Kamala getting played on live TV on this M4A private insurance issue, ya hate to see it

 

[No1]

I don't think it's fair to just call her wonkish. She's also better than him at articulating how she will implement her policies. This helps ease some of the tension some have about revolutionary change and why she doesn't get labeled as crazy. For example, the way she in a professorial way explained how she would pay for the student debt cancellation by increasing taxes on ultra millionaires 2 cents on the dollar was simple to understand and reasonable.

The way she also attacks race head on is extremely endearing and a huge red flag for Bernie. I'm surprised Nina Turner hasn't slapped some sense into him.

No candidate attacks race head on but Elizabeth Warren. She has everyone beat there on how to map out a plan. Castro has given slight nods to reparations. As far as being labeled crazy, Warren has this area to operate because Sanders created this space in 2016. She undercuts him by actually explaining it but that is what separates her from any other candidate in the past 20 years. She is uniquely talented at explaining policy. Sanders isn't giving any less detail than Obama did in 08 or Clinton in 92, etc. It's just that LIz is sitting there with a new mixtape every week. My point is, the shots you take at Sanders could apply to basically every candidate except Warren including all of the prior Democratic nominees since losing to Bush in 88.

The difference is that Sanders is commited to being more left than any of them. Also, it's basic politics. The frontrunners never give specifics until they are forced to. Sanders had to defend his tuition-free college and medicare for all plans last time around because he was the leftist challenger. No one is challenging him on how to pay for them this time (partially because there is a bill). Sanders definitely stumbles on race though. It's clear that he is remembering bullet points.