No country in the world has benefits as generous as Bernie’s bill.
But the basic premise is that primary healthcare should not be so expensive. Drugs should not be this expensive. Hospitals should not be billing obscene amounts of money. Etc.
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But the basic premise is that primary healthcare should not be so expensive. Drugs should not be this expensive. Hospitals should not be billing obscene amounts of money. Etc.
AnonymityX1000
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If that's the case Progressives can fight it @ the state level. And your claim it is only specific to Blacks is just conjecture on your part painting a worse case scenario.
And I mean is this really a reason not to do it because of suspected racism down the line? I don't think so.
It’s not a worse case scenario these are notfukking hypotheticals, it’s being done right now.
the biggest example now is sickle cell syndrome. Which blacks get 100 times more than whites and how new treatments and drugs won’t get payed for by republican states.
Progressives have been fighting on the state level for 5 decades. Black progressives werent sitting on their ass waiting on Bernie to become president. He's never presented any bills about black issues while in congress, he's never been an ally.
AnonymityX1000
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Oh so it is fukk M4A and all its benefits because it doesn't fix this one thing that the ACA didn't fix either. No one is falling for that dude. lol
no that’s not what I’m saying. I’m pro m4all, just done in the right way.
Most rationale ppl on this board believe the public option is the next step to M4all.
Biden’s public option plan doesn’t contain the “medical necessity” requirement.(Warrens didn’t but she just changed it and eliminated it in her public option plan)
Essentially I’m for the framework for the healthcare to not have racist pillars still built into it.
there’s no point working backwards over a decade or so to try and get rid of “medical necessity” when we can do so right now.
That's just not true! Bernie has been an ally. Now has he been at the forefront? No. I believe its because of him representing Vermont so yes, his fluency on the African American experience wasn't as high as someone representing diverse states.
With that said, he has been for civil rights his entire life. His belief in the policies he's championed would help black people. He backed Jesse Jackson in the 1980s when most officials in Vermont weren't touching that.
Also, Bernie is now proposing big moves that he can do via executive action on criminal justice, student debt relief, and other things that would help black people.
Be reality breh, a Bernie Sanders presidency may not have a lot of legislative accomplishments, but I wager to think he'd be fighting for people every single day.
AnonymityX1000
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Why didn't he push back against the ACA on this?
ACA wasn't a government-controlled program. And Medicaid programs are controlled by the states because they tap into more state owned funds.
That's just not true! Bernie has been an ally. Now has he been at the forefront? No. I believe its because of him representing Vermont so yes, his fluency on the African American experience wasn't as high as someone representing diverse states.
With that said, he has been for civil rights his entire life. His belief in the policies he's championed would help black people. He backed Jesse Jackson in the 1980s when most officials in Vermont weren't touching that.
Also, Bernie is now proposing big moves that he can do via executive action on criminal justice, student debt relief, and other things that would help black people.
Be reality breh, a Bernie Sanders presidency may not have a lot of legislative accomplishments, but I wager to think he'd be fighting for people every single day.
I got carried away. He's been an ally just not a champion for black issues.
I like Bernie because he stays true to his ideas, even if I dont agree with them. I know he'll try to implement strong changes. But, I don't find those to be feasible until he completely reconfigures the democratic party.
But shyt, Trump just did it with the republicans so who knows
@Pressure you right. It’s rich though cause this guy just purged 200k voters from the rolls in Ohio.
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the cac mamba
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George Conway (@gtconway3d) on Twitter
i usually read the twitters of a few of these dudes like george conway, the Never Trumpers who speak for a fair amount of republicans. im trying to look ahead to october on this
remember republicans' whole strategy last election? "oh, i know trump is terrible but ill still vote for him over hillary clinton, we cant have that". well its just gonna be the same exact strategy with bernie or warren. whereas if the nominee is biden... that bullshyt wouldnt work nearly as well. theres a reason obama successfully made biden his VP. frankly i think biden wins in 2016 too
i can see the never trump coalition getting behind biden, which could swing it. zero chance they get onboard with bernie
i usually read the twitters of a few of these dudes like george conway, the Never Trumpers who speak for a fair amount of republicans. im trying to look ahead to october on this
remember republicans' whole strategy last election? "oh, i know trump is terrible but ill still vote for him over hillary clinton, we cant have that". well its just gonna be the same exact strategy with bernie or warren. whereas if the nominee is biden... that bullshyt wouldnt work nearly as well. theres a reason obama successfully made biden his VP. frankly i think biden wins in 2016 too
i can see the never trump coalition getting behind biden, which could swing it. zero chance they get onboard with bernie
AnonymityX1000
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I thought this was an issue he cared about and was a friend to Black people. That's how you painted it, the administration he was a part of couldn't push the insurance companies? The were after all making everyone get insurance.
Never Trumpers are irrelevant. They are on cable news and write in newspapers. They aren’t a voting constituency
