2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[FAH1223]

you dense mother fukker. EVEN REPUBLICANS LOST SEATS OVER THE ACA.

He had a supermajority for less than 2 years. (arguably less than 90 days) A fleeting, illusory supermajority

This is why I can't deal with you pie in the sky as bytch ass nikkas man... That shyt was HARD. AS. fukk. TO. GET. DONE.

And you sitting here acting like Obama "didn't do enough"

My nikka, YOU ain't do enough.

The hell????

Yes. Obama didn't do enough. And the Dems got killed for 6-7 years. Save his 2012 re-election.

Results are results. The Democratic Party was in its worst position since 1929 after 2016. The DNC raised so much money from 2009-2017 and state party after state party was broke and in disarray.

And I do not discount the passage of the ACA being hard as fukk. But simple decisions could have been made beginning with the stimulus, the implementation of the bank bailout, the foreclosure wave (which, last I checked, destroyed black wealth), etc to not only make lives better but to have a way better standing in the 2010 midterms. We have the benefit of hindsight, but everyone knows this.

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

They’ve already proven they can get them back in 2018.

moderates led the dems taking back the house and flipped republican voters.

across the entire nation. All y’all have are theories. Moderates have a demonstrated winning strategy.

These elections are lot more nuanced than just "left, right, moderate". "Moderate" Biden will have his paper trail of votes (including NAFTA and the Iraq War) picked apart by Trump which are losers in those Midwest swing states. Bernie is very progressive but his populist message could peal away enough of those rural white voters who feel the system is rigged against them. Again, there's no guarantee even those flipped Dem voters in 2018 will go to Biden.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yes. Obama didn't do enough. And the Dems got killed for 6-7 years. Save his 2012 re-election.

Results are results. The Democratic Party was in its worst position since 1929 after 2016. The DNC raised so much money from 2009-2017 and state party after state party was broke and in disarray.

And I do not discount the passage of the ACA being hard as fukk. But simple decisions could have been made beginning with the stimulus, the implementation of the bank bailout, the foreclosure wave (which, last I checked, destroyed black wealth), etc to not only make lives better but to have a way better standing in the 2010 midterms. We have the benefit of hindsight, but everyone knows this.

Obama was black you dunce. OBAMA. WAS. BLACK. Get that through your fukking skull.

Now you're dancing around the stimulus and forclosures and so many other things.

This is the problem with you race reductionist progressives. Thats what you get for messing with the intersectional commies you adore.

obama did the most impactful shyt since LBJ and arguably FDR and you wanna act like "he didn't go far enough"

The Bernie bros are such clowns






@wire28 @Th3G3ntleman @ezrathegreat @Jello Biafra @humble forever @Darth Nubian @Dameon Farrow @Piff Perkins @BigMoneyGrip @Lucky_Lefty @johnedwarduado @Armchair Militant @panopticon @88m3 @Tres Leches @ADevilYouKhow @dtownreppin214 @A.R.$

 

[FAH1223]

Obama was black you dunce. OBAMA. WAS. BLACK. Get that through your fukking skull.

Now you're dancing around the stimulus and forclosures and so many other things.

This is the problem with you race reductionist progressives. Thats what you get for messing with the intersectional commies you adore.

obama did the most impactful shyt since LBJ and arguably FDR and you wanna act like "he didn't go far enough"

The Bernie bros are such clowns






@wire28 @Th3G3ntleman @ezrathegreat @Jello Biafra @humble forever @Darth Nubian @Dameon Farrow @Piff Perkins @BigMoneyGrip @Lucky_Lefty @johnedwarduado @Armchair Militant @panopticon @88m3 @Tres Leches @ADevilYouKhow @dtownreppin214 @A.R.$

Obama is black yet managed to win 300 electoral college votes twice very comfortably.

Obama is black yet had the power and authority to save black wealth by bailing out home owners rather than doing FHA modification loans that didn't write down the debt and had a trial period that still lead to short sales and foreclosures.

Obama had the executive power to fight the huge power and concentration of the tech giants, he had Dodd-Frank signed and had authority to go after the banks which just kept getting bigger...

Obama could have done more. Should have done more. And should have had his grassroots army that became OFA all over the place propogating his agenda in the face of the ridiculous right wing bullshid that came about.

 

[Warren Moon]

These elections are lot more nuanced than just "left, right, moderate". "Moderate" Biden will have his paper trail of votes (including NAFTA and the Iraq War) picked apart by Trump which are losers in those Midwest swing states. Bernie is very progressive but his populist message could peal away enough of those rural white voters who feel the system is rigged against them. Again, there's no guarantee even those flipped Dem voters in 2018 will go to Biden.

Bernie split the Midwest states with Hilary. His track record says different.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[FAH1223]

Mason-Dixon tilts more R. I remember they had Obama losing to Romney in Florida by 7 points and Obama won it.

Trump isn't winning Virginia. Bernie or Liz as the nominee will beat him there.

Florida will be close as always but it leans GOP.

If 4 more polls show Bernie and Liz losing to Trump in Virginia, then I'll get worried.

 

[A.R.$]

Republicans will call any dem candidate a socialist. They even called Obama and Hillary socialists when they are both extremely pro markets. Bernie will have a much better chance winning in the rust belt than someone like Biden. Trump is going rip Biden apart when it comes to trade. Biden supported the original NAFT, and TPP. Both are extremely unpopular in the Mid West. Bernie has a good record on trade, and his populism will play well there. Bernie will struggle in other areas. I think Bernie will have a harder time in places like FL, NC, and even Virginia. All of the Democratic candidates are extremely flawed, and there really is not a great candidate out there. Some are just more flawed than others.

Not surprising. I think Bernie can still win VA but it won’t be easy.
Edit: btw Hillary didn’t easily win VA. It was very close

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[King Kreole]

 

[FAH1223]

Not surprising. I think Bernie can still win VA but it won’t be easy.
Edit: btw Hillary didn’t easily win VA. It was very close

Hillary pulled away when NOVA votes came in. Most of the state lives in NOVA.

And NOVA has tilted more blue even from 2016.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

He's not. His supporters view it as a badge of honor. No need to be upset when someone points it out. Democrats have welcomed him in the party for 3 decades. The DNC allowed him to appoint people to their change coalition.

I'm not sure why a simple fact like pointing out he's not a Democrat triggers his supporters so much.

I'm a Warren supporter. I guess it's just weird to me how people like nap like to weaponize that fact.

 

[Pressure]

I'm a Warren supporter. I guess it's just weird to me how people like nap like to weaponize that fact.

It is what it is.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Pressure]

If he really wants to push UBI he should be all about more software engineers to increase automation