2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Mook]

Don't fall for this bullshyt.

Yall heard Bernie his damn self on the god damn debate said "none of this matters cause nothings gonna get done unless we get money out of politics"

I'm not voting for Bernie cause of some damn M4A shyt. I'm voting for Bernie cause he fukking knows exactly what needs to be done and what is truly the biggest problem in America, corruption.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I know we don’t have the majority of Dems. That is the point I been making the whole time.

Yes a lot of people like their primary care but what happens if you get laid off? Or if you go over the allotted amount your insurance allows a year? Or you have an emergency but the provider that can see you is out of network? I could go on, but that’s not the point.

I actually use the VA for my primary care. While it is not perfect, it is not bad either. When I hurt my wrist boxing last year, I was able to get my MRI, and wrist brace for free. Like private hospitals, some VA hospitals are better than others. Also active duty Air Force hospitals were the best hospital/care I ever had, and that is completely government ran.

this is exactly why we need a public OPTION, not ONLY a public option

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[Warren Moon]

what about the black men falsely accused of sexual assault?

is she going to help them

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Don't fall for this bullshyt.

Yall heard Bernie his damn self on the god damn debate said "none of this matters cause nothings gonna get done unless we get money out of politics"

I'm not voting for Bernie cause of some damn M4A shyt. I'm voting for Bernie cause he fukking knows exactly what needs to be done and what is truly the biggest problem in America, corruption.

Warren's platform is rooted in anti-corruption.

 

[King Kreole]

Nah, it has poisoned the medical coverage discussion. You got tons of money being spent to fight M4A and it's poisoning the concept of public coverage in general. additionally, it turned off voters who never wanted to be forced into a public healthcare plan.

If the conversation would have been centered around a true public option and people having the choice of who/where they want to be covered (private/employer or public) i think the conversation and appetite for change would have gone a lot better and would look a lot more achievable in the next term (if a dem wins). Now you have centrists who really aren't proposing to do shyt and progressives stuck to an unrealistic, losing proposition. I don't think we're in a better place right now as far as moving to a system where all people have coverage and, in addition to being fine with my private coverage, that has always been why i've never been a backer of m4a even as a liz supporter.

I think that money would have been spent fighting a public option if M4A wasn't in the public consciousness anyway, just like it was spent fighting the ACA. I don't think M4A has poisoned the concept of public coverage at all, I think it has strengthened it. It doesn't have universal approval from the entire population right now, but it has provoked a positive shift in the way people think about healthcare as a basic right. People are becoming familiar with the idea of single-payer, universal healthcare, even if they don't fully agree with it right now. M4A has normalized these goals and principles. It hasn't made the next Dem President implementing a public option harder, it's made it easier because now the public option can be sold as a compromise position. Basically, looking at the healthcare conversation with M4A present and the hypothetical conversation without M4A present, I think the average person is more likely to support a public option in the former conversation than the latter. Makes change much easier to swallow because the public option is no longer the radical position.

M4A is only a losing proposition if you take the position of "M4A or Bust". I think the real problem you're describing is a vocal, radical minority of M4A supporters who are becoming divorced from reality and are using M4A as a cudgel in a related but adjacent culture war, which is why they've lost the plot and are trading in absurd theories about how the political process works. They don't see M4A as a health care policy, they see it primarily as a litmus test designed to promote their preferred primary candidate.

 

[John Reena]

Guess he pandering for tha gay vote.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Guess he pandering for tha gay vote.

silicon valley/tech bro/white shyt...

 

[No1]

Nah, it has poisoned the medical coverage discussion. You got tons of money being spent to fight M4A and it's poisoning the concept of public coverage in general. additionally, it turned off voters who never wanted to be forced into a public healthcare plan.

If the conversation would have been centered around a true public option and people having the choice of who/where they want to be covered (private/employer or public) i think the conversation and appetite for change would have gone a lot better and would look a lot more achievable in the next term (if a dem wins). Now you have centrists who really aren't proposing to do shyt and progressives stuck to an unrealistic, losing proposition. I don't think we're in a better place right now as far as moving to a system where all people have coverage and, in addition to being fine with my private coverage, that has always been why i've never been a backer of m4a even as a liz supporter.

You remember how hard insurance companies came at the public option in 07 and 08. You’re being delusional thinking that they wouldn’t go just as hard if we didn’t push for Medicare for all. First off, they are already painting Biden as a far left nut for his public option. As it stands, 81 percent of Democrats support Medicare for all. That’s something to fight with and then ultimately compromise. Sanders always starts farthest left possible and then does what he has to.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[the next guy]

 

[JoogJoint]

Yahoo is now part of Verizon Media

That's my Marianne Williamson.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[John Reena]

Hilary is like the turd that won’t flush. Her ego, white privilege, and white entitlement won’t let her go away and stfu.

 

[the next guy]

Hilary is like the turd that won’t flush. Her ego, white privilege, and white entitlement won’t let her go away and stfu.

I mean you don't even have to like Bernie. At least you can't say he didn't fight to be there. She was handed everything and she lost...