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Warren is tanking and nikkas are blaming Bernie and his supporters :laff::laff::laff:

We was saying for weeks her not acknowledging the taxes shyt would bite her in the ass.Yall blind Stan ass nikkas just refused to see it

You can’t be standing next to a nikka with basically the same plan and Juelz about taxes when the dude that wrote the damn bill straight up
says taxes will go up ..

It just looks funny In the light

add that to the Native American and Being a republican shyt and now you have a narrative

She’s still my number two but come the fukk on
Yup. Told people here for months she is inauthentic and perceived as inauthentic and that is the primary reason she ain’t it.

People talking about the Native American thing is a smear, like her goofy ass didn’t pretend or wasn’t too dumb enough to know she was a white woman until she was in her 60’s talking about “I got high cheekbones,” then make a fool out of herself by trying to silence the critics with a DNA test and all it proved is that she’s 1/54662467th native American. :mjlol:

Posters were in here talking about perceptions of title ix affirmative action and all this shyt, missing the larger point: that the whole thing just makes her look like a fukkING CLOWNSHOE. And it was totally self-inflicted. Most voters aren’t gonna trust someone who was claiming they were a different race until last year.

Her fumbling of the healthcare issue may have been her campaign’s death knell, but her status as a frontrunner always had a shelf life.

She always would have had a trust deficit with voters both in the left wing base and amongst persuadables...

-being a fake native American

-endorsing Hillary

-awkward ass forced moments like “I’m gonna go grab a beer” and that setup question about gay marriage from one of her donors and her flippant, scripted response

-refusing to say taxes would be raised for M4A in the debate, then coming out with that convoluted M4A plan because she got bullied by Buttigieg and Klobuchar, then backing off M4A after Buttigieg started taking her votes.

Add that to being a Republican til she was 46 and having zero history of being part of any grassroots activism about anything until she was in her 60’s and you get a candidate that average people ain’t really fukking with.

She deserves to lose votes to Buttigieg. She responded to his rise by basically absorbing his “Medicare for all who want it” bullshyt, just like she did M4A after Bernie pushed it.

The sooner she drops out, the sooner she can throw her support behind Bernie and the whole progressive movement. She can’t lead it though.
 
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She really thinks corporate vultures are going to give employee raises for the supposed savings they get. And then after they do she expects to tax it

That's not at all what its saying, it means that the portion of your paycheck that goes to health insurance would go directly to the employee.

That would be an extra $202 each check for me personally and would damn sure feel like a raise. Even if I gotta pay an extra $100 each check in taxes, I'll still see an increase in income.

This is what the average voter doesn't understand about how this would effect them, they just hear "more taxes" and freak out without even trying to understand how this plan would work.

The fact that the average voter is too retarded inform themselves about this is why this country deserves shytty politicians till the end of time.
 

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That's not at all what its saying, it means that the portion of your paycheck that goes to health insurance would go directly to the employee.

That would be an extra $202 each check for me personally and would damn sure feel like a raise. Even if I gotta pay an extra $100 each check in taxes, I'll still see an increase in income.

This is what the average voter doesn't understand about how this would effect them, they just hear "more taxes" and freak out without even trying to understand how this plan would work.

that’s not what I’m arguing. She assumes that your salaries and wages will be the same and stay on the same trajectory.

here’s how it’ll really work. This is an example

You get a 50k offer and typically employee contributions are 5k. So the company offers 55k to account for that.

she’s assuming that employers will continue offering u that 55k offer out of the kindness of their hearts :what:

if companies can save money they will. :martin:


If you don’t have to pay 5k a year in employee contributions they’re going to offer you 50k not 55.

Her math is that everyone will continue getting salaries and wages as they did before the employee contribution was eliminated and therefore she’ll raise 1.5 TRILLION :skip:



it’s fukking hilarious:pachaha:
 

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that’s not what I’m arguing. She assumes that your salaries and wages will be the same and stay on the same trajectory.

here’s how it’ll really work. This is an example

You get a 50k offer and typically employee contributions are 5k. So the company offers 55k to account for that.

she’s assuming that employers will continue offering u that 55k offer out of the kindness of their hearts :what:

if companies can save money they will. :martin:


If you don’t have to pay 5k a year in employee contributions they’re going to offer you 50k not 55.

Her math is that everyone will continue getting salaries and wages as they did before the employee contribution was eliminated and therefore she’ll raise 1.5 TRILLION :skip:



it’s fukking hilarious:pachaha:

So you think wages will go down :stopitslime:

That only happens in a weak job market usually via a recession. Employers aren’t going to cut current employees salaries and people aren’t going to start asking for less money cause the boss doesn’t have to contribute to their health care.
 

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So you think wages will go down :stopitslime:

That only happens in a weak job market usually via a recession. Employers aren’t going to cut current employees salaries and people aren’t going to start asking for less money cause the boss doesn’t have to contribute to their health care.


Employees wages going down isn’t only bc of a recession.

wages are dictated by role, area you work so many factors.

if you make 100k. Your up for a promotion. typically your raise would incorporate your employee contributions. so instead of a 10k increase, they’ll give u 12k.


Logically or emotionally do u truly think employers will continue offering u that 12k increase?

warren does :mjlol:
 

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that’s not what I’m arguing. She assumes that your salaries and wages will be the same and stay on the same trajectory.

here’s how it’ll really work. This is an example

You get a 50k offer and typically employee contributions are 5k. So the company offers 55k to account for that.

she’s assuming that employers will continue offering u that 55k offer out of the kindness of their hearts :what:

if companies can save money they will. :martin:


If you don’t have to pay 5k a year in employee contributions they’re going to offer you 50k not 55.

Her math is that everyone will continue getting salaries and wages as they did before the employee contribution was eliminated and therefore she’ll raise 1.5 TRILLION :skip:



it’s fukking hilarious:pachaha:
Employers will not start cutting people's wages breh.

:comeon:

Employers will come out winning as well considering that they wont have to cover health insurance for their employees.
 

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Employers will not start cutting people's wages breh.

:comeon:

Employers will come out winning as well considering that they wont have to cover health insurance for their employees.

current employees will not have their current wages cut. But job offers at a different company and raises will be lower across the board. That’s a Fact.

it’s not directly cutting wages, but in a sense it will be, just through other means.

you’re talking about the companies that have lobbying the government not to pay $10 an hr for minimum wage.

if they can save 5-15k an employee. Why wouldn’t they :mjlol:.

If your taking home 50k of out 55k when u have employee contributions. Them offering u 50k presents no effect to ur Take home pay.

y’all expect them to let u take home that extra 5k bc Elizabeth Warren says it and this is after she raises taxes on them anyway to pay for other stuff. :dwillhuh:



It’s business not personal brehs. :francis:

she’s selling y’all dreams :gucci:
 

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Employers will not start cutting people's wages breh.

:comeon:

Employers will come out winning as well considering that they wont have to cover health insurance for their employees.

Warrens making them pay the same they’re already paying for employees breh. :why:

they’re 100% still paying for healthcare insurance, it’s just reconfigured as a tax
 

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The sooner she drops out, the sooner she can throw her support behind Bernie and the whole progressive movement. She can’t lead it though.

If Elizabeth Warren is the fake, inauthentic, neoliberal shill you claim her to be, why would she endorse Bernie after she drops out? Why wouldn’t she throw her support behind Pete?
 

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If Elizabeth Warren is the fake, inauthentic, neoliberal shill you claim her to be, why would she endorse Bernie after she drops out? Why wouldn’t she throw her support behind Pete?
When did I say she was a neoliberal shill? You just threw that in there.

Inauthenticity is a character trait.
 
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