2020 Census Will Ask Black People About Their Exact Origins

[El Bombi]

I'm cool with it.

And you all know they mean are you a child/grandchild of immigrants or are you native Black (African Americans/Descendants of Slaves) No need to go to Ancestry.com, brehs

This

And it isn't that hard to find that out.

I'm personally 4 generations removed from slavery on my Father side and 5 generations removed from slavery on my Mother side.

I even carry the last name of my great-great grandfather who was my last know direct lineal descendant that was born into slavery.

People forget that we're really not that far removed from slavery.

 

[El Bombi]

It is really not...people act like we just have no origin and we were just brought here and abandoned all types of ways to identify ourselves and didn't know where we came from and got no culture...therefore we just a bumbling and stumbling mass of people and our ancestors were just oblivious...

Very disrespectful really...

If the government really really want to and I think this should be part of reparations...

They can trace our ancestry down to the first slave that set upon these shores and find out where your ancestors came from down to the tribe....since slave masters and slave traders (White and African) had preferences. Some tribes were more aggressive than others, some tribes were bigger than others, some tribes had specific skills, some tribes were more educated.

The thing about White folks is that they keep records and are very specific...

We could have a whole registry of slaves and slavemasters...and genetic links similar to the Native Americans...

Finding out if someone is a descendant of African slaves that were brought to the United States isn't that hard since there are records of who were slaves in 1865.

People forget that slavery really wasn't that long ago.

Most 80's babies like myself are really only 4 or 5 generations removed from slavery.

 

[AlainLocke]

Where do Halfricans fall?.

This is about time tho. AA DOS should have this distinction.

Halfricans...

I think they would still go under the American DOS of slave category no different if they were biracial...

I think American DOS category should be like the one drop rule...

So if your father or mother was born here...as a native to the land and your father or mother people were native American slaves...then you should just go into the American DOS category and be done with it...

Now if you proceed to breed out the slave blood then with subsequent generations of American non-slaves...I think you should just be some other shyt...

Cause it ain't fair to the rest of us that still got slave blood and then some motherfukker is like descended from slave blood 4 generations back but now looks like Muhammad Ali grandkids and he over there trying to claim DOS but his momma Asian and his dad is like 1/8th Black American

fukk that native american bullshyt...there should be a process where you breed out...

The whole purpose of this process is to develop privilege for those that descend from American slavery...

 

[HoonDing]

Great. So aside from the overtones in general, now I'll have to listen to heads arguing whether "African-American" refers to immigrants from African countries or black Americans. Lovely.

It refers to black united states natives.
Not continentals.
Not caribs.
You know this.

I've been starting to see how problematic that could be in the future.

1. Any child of an african immigrant born in the U.S. could be considered an African-American.
2. And the word "black" itself is used interchangeably with Black Americans and the African race. (Plus I recall seeing something about black being used as a political identity in the UK ().

If it were up to me, "Afram" would be how we referred to ourselves. "Afram" being any African DoCS born in the U.S. Our own ethnicity and no room for confusion.

 

[AlainLocke]

Finding out if someone is a descendant of African slaves that were brought to the United States isn't that hard since there are records of who were slaves in 1865.

People forget that slavery really wasn't that long ago.

Most 80's babies like myself are really only 4 or 5 generations removed from slavery.

Yup...

I got records and I am a 90s baby...

IDK about other places but the USA got hella records...

And then a lot of those slave families that were prominent enough would keep family history and family journals and even include the slaves as part of the family history...

Or...local historians of the time would keep family history on these prominent families...

So like...there's no excuse for anybody to talk that bullshyt like...we can't tell where we come from...very few White people owned slaves by the dawn of the Civil War...you are right...if we just wanna go to 1865...we got everything we need.

I've been starting to see how problematic that could be in the future.

1. Any child of an african immigrant born in the U.S. could be considered an African-American.
2. And the word "black" itself is used interchangeably with Black Americans and the African race. (Plus I recall seeing something about black being used as a political identity in the UK ().

If it were up to me, "Afram" would be how we referred to ourselves. "Afram" being any African DoCS born in the U.S. Our own ethnicity and no room for confusion.

Well...some scholars have been refering to the population of Black people that live in the Americas that descend from slaves as New World African...

I like New World African since it includes all of us...Afrolatinos and Canadian nikkas that are native and etc...

And African American is also used as a pan-identity by certain scholars to include all of the native DOS population in the Americas...

We do need one single identifier for use in the USA which is why I like USA Native Black...

And we need one that unite all of us in the Diaspora as DOS...which is why I like New World African...

So if you are not from the Americas...then you are some other shyt...like if you are Nigerian...you ain't New World African...you are Old World African...

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I've been starting to see how problematic that could be in the future.

1. Any child of an african immigrant born in the U.S. could be considered an African-American.
2. And the word "black" itself is used interchangeably with Black Americans and the African race. (Plus I recall seeing something about black being used as a political identity in the UK ().

If it were up to me, "Afram" would be how we referred to ourselves. "Afram" being any African DoCS born in the U.S. Our own ethnicity and no room for confusion.

No, African American refers to native black descendants of UNITED STATES SLAVES.

 

[AlainLocke]

No, African American refers to native black descendants of UNITED STATES SLAVES.

It does...I think colloquially...but not on the census...which is why we need this..

I mean...Obama is considered African American...

And that nikka is related to slaves on his White side

 

[Pressure]

I'm confused. They already use Hispanic/Latino as an ethnicity on the census & other legal/registration forms. So how are they gonna make it both a race & ethnicity at the same time?

By giving them the option to not be labeled either black or white.

Black, white, Asian, hispanic/Latino as options for race.

They floated the idea in some other surveys and it was a popular choice.

In America I guess a lot of Hispanic and Latino people don't want to be the same race as cacs and black folk.

 

[ultraflexed]

Halfricans...

I think they would still go under the American DOS of slave category no different if they were biracial...

I think American DOS category should be like the one drop rule...

So if your father or mother was born here...as a native to the land and your father or mother people were native American slaves...then you should just go into the American DOS category and be done with it...

Now if you proceed to breed out the slave blood then with subsequent generations of American non-slaves...I think you should just be some other shyt...

Cause it ain't fair to the rest of us that still got slave blood and then some motherfukker is like descended from slave blood 4 generations back but now looks like Muhammad Ali grandkids and he over there trying to claim DOS but his momma Asian and his dad is like 1/8th Black American

fukk that native american bullshyt...there should be a process where you breed out...

The whole purpose of this process is to develop privilege for those that descend from American slavery...

No one drop rule then everyone would try to cash in.

You need to have slave blood on both your mom and dad's side.

 

[Boujee Bonita Braxton]

Damn you! Give me my life back!!

I thought I made this thread.

 

[315]

Damn you! Give me my life back!!

I thought I made this thread.

Everything alright?

 

[Boujee Bonita Braxton]

Everything alright?

No. He's an identity thief.

 

[Samson]

This thread was made in The Root already so I'll just quote myself:

Finally!!!
#HaitianGang should have a strong showing. I am expecting us to be the plurality-majority of West-Indian Blacks

To my AA brothers and sisters talking about reparations. I wish you guys luck and hope y'all can get yours. Haiti in the early 00s had a president who demanded reparations from France, he was ousted from power and sent into exile. Hopefully, AAs are more successful.

 

[satam55]

No one drop rule then everyone would try to cash in.

You need to have slave blood on both your mom and dad's side.

How the fucc you gonna tell half-black/AA biracials because 1 of their parents aren't AA, they don't deserve any reparations. Think about that for a second. By that logic reverse-qaudroons, half-black/AA biracials with 2 half-black/AA biracial parents, & etc. shouldn't qualify either.

 

[Memorial Stadium Piru]

What if I'm 75% Caribbean & 25% AA and grew up heavily with my AA side?