Brown needs to learn to play team ball but his tools are undeniable.
Deyonta is too frail and raw. Tyler can't defend. Bryant is the worst big I've seen PnR. They need another year. Onuaku is a fringe guy. Lawson is a non explosive blackhole.
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Brown needs to learn to play team ball but his tools are undeniable.
Deyonta is too frail and raw. Tyler can't defend. Bryant is the worst big I've seen PnR. They need another year. Onuaku is a fringe guy. Lawson is a non explosive blackhole.
True but scouts are too reactionary to a bad game or 2 sometimes.
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Lawson is a terrific passer for his size/age.
Jaylen Brown isn't quick enough to make up for his other short comings. Talk about needing another year (or 3)..
Deyonta is frail but he just turned 19 and has a good frame.
Tyler is actually a solid defender for a freshman but a bit slow footed for today's NBA which is what worries me. His skill set around the basket is undeniable though.
Thomas Bryant has a long way to go with his defensive fundementals but playing with Yogi and Blackmon doesnt help either. 2 terrible defenders. The length and frame is there. In the right situation (good coaching amd team structure) he could be a legit rim protector within a few years
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I didn't really like Diallo that much. I saw him at that adidas world camp when he supposedly exploded onto the radar. He reminds me of a really poor man's DeRozan. Talent is there I get it but he needs to work on his skills more. Some terrible shot selection and driving right into the defense. This is common for young players but seemed especially a problem for him
I don't think he's as tall as Demar. It'll be interesting to see where he goes or if he reclassifies up.
The 17 class is really light as you said now. But some guys should emerge
It was a joke that they moved him out of the 1 spot in his own class when outside of maybe Bagley they'res nobody with nearly his upside in hs.
He simply gets bored at times because he has no competition
Bamba is intriguing to me because he has no idea what the hell he's doing yet and is still impacting because of his insane size and length
If he ever develops even a little his upside is crazy
JP_614
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idk I wanna say the size of his opposition but I remember mason plumlee working this dude in the boards just be being stronger and more aggressive
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The biggest disconnect I seem to have with the mock drafts is Jaylen Brown.
He is way stronger or quicker than anyone that tries to guard him at the college level. Plays a lot of "bully ball"..
In the 8 games I watched from Cal so far (against relatively good competition - 4 Pac 12 games + Virginia, St Mary's, SD State and Richmond) he has been able to get to the hoop almost at will. He looks like mini LeBron against college players.
41-66 on 2 pointers (62%)
That and the fact that he passes the eye test by a mile and seems to have a mature outlook and personality are the reasons why some have him pegged top 3 this year.
What worries me however is everything else. He will not be able to bully NBA players. He isn't going to be quicker or stronger than every defender.
So in those same 8 games. 6-22 three point shooting (27%)
27 turnovers (4.1 turnovers per 36)
Just 11 assists and 3 steals.
Not to mention his defensive fundamentals and ability to read opponents is non existent.
He does have 49 boards and 6 blocks but when you realize that Cal often uses him at PF those numbers becomes much less impressive.
Until he can continue to shoot 60% from 2, turnover the ball a lot less and play some actual D, I refuse to rank him in my top 15. I probably wouldn't take him until about 25.
Certainly take Jamal Murray over him and Murray isn't top 15 either for me personally rn.
Because of his impressive athletic ability (and the other stuff I mentioned) i do expect him to get drafted top 5 but we will most likely see him struggle from the field and put up Mudiayesque shooting percentages next season.
The talent is there but who knows if it will ever get to anywhere near his ceiling.
At least as of now, 90 out of a 100, I'm taking Valentine or Hield over him. You know day 1 these guys will come in and give you 3 and D and with Valentine he also provides some incredible passing skills.
Sorry for being a bit Long winded but I know as I continue to add draft rankings this season the "why no Brown?" question will come up so I wanted to go into detail and explain it right away.
He is way stronger or quicker than anyone that tries to guard him at the college level. Plays a lot of "bully ball"..
In the 8 games I watched from Cal so far (against relatively good competition - 4 Pac 12 games + Virginia, St Mary's, SD State and Richmond) he has been able to get to the hoop almost at will. He looks like mini LeBron against college players.
41-66 on 2 pointers (62%)
That and the fact that he passes the eye test by a mile and seems to have a mature outlook and personality are the reasons why some have him pegged top 3 this year.
What worries me however is everything else. He will not be able to bully NBA players. He isn't going to be quicker or stronger than every defender.
So in those same 8 games. 6-22 three point shooting (27%)
27 turnovers (4.1 turnovers per 36)
Just 11 assists and 3 steals.
Not to mention his defensive fundamentals and ability to read opponents is non existent.
He does have 49 boards and 6 blocks but when you realize that Cal often uses him at PF those numbers becomes much less impressive.
Until he can continue to shoot 60% from 2, turnover the ball a lot less and play some actual D, I refuse to rank him in my top 15. I probably wouldn't take him until about 25.
Certainly take Jamal Murray over him and Murray isn't top 15 either for me personally rn.
Because of his impressive athletic ability (and the other stuff I mentioned) i do expect him to get drafted top 5 but we will most likely see him struggle from the field and put up Mudiayesque shooting percentages next season.
The talent is there but who knows if it will ever get to anywhere near his ceiling.
At least as of now, 90 out of a 100, I'm taking Valentine or Hield over him. You know day 1 these guys will come in and give you 3 and D and with Valentine he also provides some incredible passing skills.
Sorry for being a bit Long winded but I know as I continue to add draft rankings this season the "why no Brown?" question will come up so I wanted to go into detail and explain it right away.
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No love for Brice Johnson? It seems he finally got it together this year. If he stays this focused with his natural talent, I can't see how you can keep him off any top 10 list of this year draft
His historic game against Florida State alone put him there. 39 pts, 23 rebounds, and 3 blocks! you kidding me
His historic game against Florida State alone put him there. 39 pts, 23 rebounds, and 3 blocks! you kidding me
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Valentine will go high just to keep him away from the Spurs
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No love for Brice Johnson? It seems he finally got it together this year. If he stays this focused with his natural talent, I can't see how you can keep him off any top 10 list of this year draft
His historic game against Florida State alone put him there. 39 pts, 23 rebounds, and 3 blocks! you kidding me
Ya I havent done a top 15 ranking since that game but he is pretty close. We will see how he does the rest of the season
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What you guys think about Johm Brown. Probably the best dunker in all of college ball
Averaging 19 points 2 blocks 2 steals.
He is listed 6"8 but probably closer to 6'6 and can't shoot at all but hey neither can Ben Simmons. Not comparing the 2 but he can be a sleeper in the 2nd round.
Averaging 19 points 2 blocks 2 steals.
He is listed 6"8 but probably closer to 6'6 and can't shoot at all but hey neither can Ben Simmons. Not comparing the 2 but he can be a sleeper in the 2nd round.
If your description and the video I got that Ishmael Muhammad vibe. Have no idea what dudes game is like though.