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CFB Future Power Rankings by espn

they say these will be the best teams over the next 3 years.

1Alabama Crimson Tide
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The bar graphs reflect the average rating given by the voters for each category.
Category averages are weighted by importance to generate overall score.

Coaching: There was no doubt among our panelists as to which program has the best coaching situation in the country going forward. "Nick Saban's 'process' is the envy of every other team in the country," says Schlabach. "As long as he's there, they're going to be at the very top." And our panel is betting that Saban will continue to be on the Crimson Tide's sideline the next three seasons. "I don't think he's at an age where he's looking to seek out a new challenge," Luginbill says of the 61-year-old Saban. "I think he wants to see if he can create, quite possibly, the greatest dynasty in the history of college football."

Current Talent: In addition to established stars like QB AJ McCarron, RB T.J. Yeldon, WR Amari Cooper, OT Cyrus Kouandjio, LB C.J. Mosley and FS Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, there is young talent ready to step in after them. RB Derrick Henry, WR Chris Black, FS Landon Collins and LB Ryan Anderson are among the guys to keep an eye on. As is tight end O.J. Howard. "If there's one position where they haven't had a true difference-maker since Saban has been there, it's at tight end," says Luginbill. "Howard could be that guy."

Recruiting: The anatomy of a perfect 10 rating: The Crimson Tide haven't finished outside the top three in ESPN's recruiting class rankings since 2007, and they're coming off back-to-back No. 1 classes. They currently own the No. 2 class for 2014 on the strength of highly ranked pocket passer David Cornwell's recent commitment.

Title Path: This was the only category in which the Tide slipped a little, a credit to the ultracompetitive SEC West. But as Alabama has shown in the past two seasons, it's possible for an SEC team to withstand a conference loss and still make it to the national championship game.

Program Power: As important as Saban is, our experts agree that Alabama's facilities, resources and institutional support contribute greatly to the program's success. "You have every resource at your disposal there to win long term. It's what separates them from everybody else," says Luginbill. "Everybody's heard the 'all-in' slogan when talking about college football programs. But when Alabama uses the phrase 'all-in,' they're not just talking about the football program; they're talking about the university as a whole. Whether you're the track coach or the assistant professor in the sociology wing, everybody there understands that when football drives the bus, everybody wins."

2Ohio State Buckeyes

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Coaching: If you're looking for reasons Ohio State earned the No. 2 spot in our rankings, start with Urban Meyer. "This rating is really just Urban-driven," says Haney. "They would probably be a top-10-ish team if Jim Tressel were still there, but Meyer brings so much potential on multiple fronts. Right away he's created the perception that they could be a yearly national title player. He's as close to Saban as any coach in the country."

Current Talent: The Buckeyes were a little lower here than they were in the other categories. "Their talent level is good," says McShay, "but not exceptional." But in addition to Heisman candidate QB Braxton Miller, who has at least one year left in Columbus, young guys like sophomore, defensive lineman Noah Spence and three highly touted true freshmen -- RB Dontre Wilson, WR Jalin Marshall and CB Eli Apple -- have the look of future stars.

Recruiting: Since Meyer was hired in November 2011, the Buckeyes have hauled in the No. 6 and No. 3 recruiting classes in ESPN's rankings. "What's happened is you have a coach with a distinct history of success, and that becomes contagious," Luginbill says. "His recruiting roots in southern parts of the country allow him to supplement his classes with the types of players that aren't always in abundance in the Midwest. At Florida, he could throw a rock out his office window and hit a defensive lineman, but the talent pool isn't quite what it once was in the Midwest. He knows that to win a national title, he's going to need those kinds of players, and that makes his southern connections very important."

Title Path: The Buckeyes find themselves in a great spot in this category -- the Big Ten doesn't provide the grueling conference schedule of the SEC, but it has the program stature needed to earn a title game bid. "Ohio State legitimizes that conference," says McShay. "If they go undefeated, because of Meyer, they can go to the national championship game."

Program Power: Meyer was a perfect fit for Ohio State, but this 8.8 rating demonstrates that the program already had the pieces in place -- history, tradition and money -- to create a perennial title contender prior to his arrival.

3LSU Tigers
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Coaching: LSU is an interesting program to evaluate from a coaching standpoint. The Tigers have won consistently, but Les Miles has taken heat for late-game management issues. Still, LSU ended up earning the third-highest mark in the coaching category in these rankings. "I think they've been really strong with their defensive coaching staff, with coordinator John Chavis, and that's covered up for a few things."

Current Talent: Even after having nine players taken in the 2013 NFL draft, the Tigers still have plenty of talent left on their depth chart. "LSU is one of three or four teams that are so head and shoulders ahead of the rest of the country in terms of defensive front-seven play," Luginbill says. "They've been so good there that it's masked some deficiencies on offense." DT Anthony Johnson looks to be the next elite LSU defensive linemen.

Recruiting: This category is where the Tigers really got a boost. "In terms of overall talent, Louisiana is a better recruiting state than Alabama and Ohio," says Luginbill. "And the 2014 class from that state could produce the type of class that only comes along once in every 15 years." Three four-star recruits from Louisiana have already committed to LSU, and several other top in-state prospects are considering the Tigers, including ESPN No. 1 overall prospect RB Leonard Fournette.

Title Path: The Tigers have made the national championship game in two of the past six seasons, but playing in a division with Alabama and a rising Texas A&M program makes for a challenging path to the title game. Example: LSU could play as many as four top-10 teams in 2013.

Program Power: Only Alabama scored higher in this category than LSU (the Tigers tied with Ohio State), and the program has been a model of consistency. "LSU has been the one program able to play, recruit and develop at this high of a level outside of Alabama," Haney says. "Even when they lose a bunch of guys like they did this year, we're still thinking of them as a top-10 team. That just demonstrates where they are as a program."

4Florida Gators

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Coaching: Florida's rating in this category kept it from jumping ahead of Ohio State and LSU, as Will Muschamp didn't score as high as several of the other coaches in the top 10 of these rankings. "I think there was a jury's-still-out feeling on some of the newer head coaches in these rankings, and the voting on Muschamp reflected that," says Haney. "But that could change with another good year -- and I think it'll come around as Will gets more comfortable there. Coaches I've talked to think they're running that program as something of a 'Bama Light.' They're constructed kind of the same way."

Current Talent: The Gators tied for second in this category with LSU, behind Bama. Guys like Dominique Easley, Ronald Powell and Loucheiz Purifoy are already on NFL radars, and future stars like 2013 recruits RB Kelvin Taylor and CB Vernon Hargreaves III should keep the talent level high in future seasons. But there is improvement to be made. "Muschamp is going to build his team around defense," says Schlabach, "but they're going to have to get better on offense." That'll start this year with QB Jeff Driskel, currently a fringe NFL prospect.

Recruiting: Coming off back-to-back top-five classes, the Gators' best opportunity for continued improvement is on the trail. "They're in the biggest recruiting hotbed in the country," Schlabach says. "Muschamp should be able to cherry-pick any player he wants."

Title Path: Florida's numbers took a hit in this category. Despite playing in the relatively easier East Division, there are enough obstacles every season to interfere with the Gators' championship plans.

Program Power: From the recruiting base to the facilities to the resources (UF ranks in the top five nationally in total revenue), plenty of factors support the Gators' continued rise to the top of college football.

5Michigan Wolverines
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Coaching: Brady Hoke and his coaching staff earned high marks from this panel in his third year with the program, and there is a general feeling that he has the Wolverines heading in the right direction. "What Hoke is trying to do is bring Michigan back to what his vision of Michigan is, which is adopting a physical mentality in everything they do," Luginbill says. "He essentially had to transform a roster to be 180 degrees different from what it was, and he's made faster strides than what people expected."

Current Talent: The Wolverines ranked lowest in this category out of the top five, but there are several key pieces in place going forward, starting at the QB position. Michigan signed its quarterback of the future, Shane Morris, in the 2013 recruiting class, and its current signal-caller Devin Gardner was recently awarded an extra year of eligibility that could keep him in Ann Arbor through the 2014 season. "I would be very surprised if Devin Gardner isn't one of college football's breakout players this season," says Luginbill. "He could be special." Another name to watch: true freshman running back Derrick Green, who could have an impact right away.

Recruiting: Michigan is gaining significant momentum on the recruiting trail, coming off a No. 6 class ranking in 2013 and currently ranking No. 1 for the Class of 2014.

Title Path: "They're in good shape as far as title path goes," Haney says. "They're well-positioned right now -- in that league, Ohio State is 1 and Michigan is 1A." Outside of the Buckeyes and Wolverines, both in our top five, no Big Ten teams made this list -- a sign of the lack of threats in the rest of the league.

Program Power: The history, tradition and revenue are all there, with more help on the way. "They are in the process of significant facilities upgrades, which they needed," says Luginbill. "That's proven to be fruitful in recruiting." Says Haney: "When I visited Ann Arbor this spring, I was struck by how big they are on the Michigan 'brand.' They can promote themselves academically in a way the other schools this high on the list can't."
 

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6Notre Dame Fighting Irish

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Coaching: "Notre Dame could not have a better fit at head coach than Brian Kelly," says Huard. "He's shown it on the field and off the field. That's the most important factor for them for years to come, because it's a unique situation there, with high standards both academically and athletically."

Current Talent: The Fighting Irish scored lower in this category than the other teams in the top 10, but their talent level appears to be on the rise. "I don't think last year was a one-hit wonder," says McShay. "In voting for these rankings, I ranked Notre Dame as the fifth-most-talented team coming into this season. I'm not saying they'll be in the national title hunt year in and year out, but their talent level will give them a chance to be a perennial top-10 team."

Recruiting: The Irish's recent recruiting momentum (ESPN's No. 4 class in 2013) should continue to improve that talent level. Says Huard: "When you stack up Kelly's recruiting there to some of the other Notre Dame coaches before him, it's no comparison." Luginbill adds: "I really believe that for them to compete at a high level, they're going to need to upgrade in the trenches and go in to the SEC's backyard to do it. That's what they did to land their current crop of defensive linemen -- I don't think people have given them enough credit for that."

Title Path: The Irish play the most unique schedule of any team in these rankings, but earned high scores because they play a challenging-enough schedule to earn a title game bid, and don't have an Alabama- or Florida-like obstacle on the slate each year.

Program Power: With the Irish's run to the BCS title game last season, it appears that their on-field play has begun to match the school's tradition and fan support. "'Relevance' is always the word we use with Notre Dame," says Luginbill. "My response to that has always been that they'll be relevant when the great high school football players around the country think that they are relevant. You create and maintain that relevance by winning."

7 Florida State Seminoles posted in FSU thread


8Texas A&M Aggies

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Coaching: It only took Kevin Sumlin one season at A&M to get the attention of our panelists. "I think Sumlin is one of the premier coaches in the country," says McShay. "He understands the big picture, and his offensive system is right up there with any in college football. He allows guys to do what they do best and doesn't force them to fit what he wants to do schematically. He could do special things there for a long time." Defensive coordinator Mark Snyder earned praise as well.

Current Talent: Don't let all of the excitement around Johnny Football distract from the supporting talent around him. "It's not just Johnny Manziel," says McShay. LT Jake Matthews, WRs Mike Evans and Ricky Seals-Jones, RBs Brandon Williams and Trey Williams and CB Deshazor Everett are all guys to keep an eye on, for this and future seasons. "They need to improve on the defensive side of the ball, but they have a good young nucleus that should continue to get better," McShay says. "And with the way they're recruiting, there are a lot of starters in the next two seasons who will be fighting to keep their jobs -- that's the sign of a great program."

Recruiting: With Manziel likely not staying long in College Station ("I give it about a 99.999 percent chance he leaves for the draft after this season," says McShay), finding a long-term replacement at QB is critical. The Aggies have a good candidate to do just that in recent 2014 commit Kyle Allen. The QB's verbal commitment boosted the Aggies to No. 3 in ESPN's current 2014 class rankings -- a height they hadn't reached prior to Sumlin's arrival and the program's move to the SEC. "Right now they have a little bit of what Oregon has had in recent seasons, which is that 'cool factor,'" says Luginbill. "They're a high-flying circus act on offense, they have a Heisman winner at QB, and they made a splash immediately in the SEC. It's a snowball effect."

Title Path: The only thing our panel didn't like about the No. 8 Aggies' chances to compete for titles in the next three seasons? The fact that the No. 1 and No. 3 teams on this list, Alabama and LSU, are both in their division.

Program Power: With a $450 million stadium renovation on the way, there appears to be plenty of momentum in College Station. "They've always had the fan base and tradition," says McShay. "Football is just so big down there. But now they've got the elite coaching and talent to go along with that passion." Adds Haney: "I think they're just getting started."

9Georgia Bulldogs

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Coaching: Georgia didn't score as high here as some of the other top SEC programs, but our panelists cautioned against being too tough on Mark Richt. "What Richt has done at Georgia is underappreciated," Schlabach says. "He definitely has them back in the upper echelon." Adds Haney: "They've been the model of consistency in that East Division, and that's a tough thing to do."

Current Talent: "They've done a really nice job of sustaining a high level of talent through recruiting and development," Haney says. Case in point: The departures of NFL first-round picks Jarvis Jones and Alec Ogletree have made way for two very talented sophomores (and former top recruits) Jordan Jenkins and Josh Harvey-Clemons on a reloaded defense. Good young offensive players like RT John Theus and RBs Todd Gurley and Keith Marshall should keep that side of the ball rolling as well.

Recruiting: The Bulldogs have brought in top-10 classes in each of the last three years, and already have two highly touted RB prospects committed for the 2014 class in Sony Michel and Nick Chubb.

Title Path: Even though the Bulldogs have benefited from softer-than-usual SEC schedules the past two seasons, that won't be the case going forward. "The biggest issue for them is that they have to play Florida, South Carolina and Tennessee in the East every year, and then beat LSU, Bama or somebody else really good in the SEC championship game," Schlabach says.

Program Power: "I don't think there's any reason UGA can't be a national title contender every year," Schlabach says. "They're in the right conference, the right recruiting base and have all the resources to get it done." Haney adds: "They've reached the level where if they won the SEC, no one would blink. And they almost did last year."

10Stanford Cardinal

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Coaching: Only five programs in this ranking earned an 8.0 or better in the coaching category. Stanford, led by head coach David Shaw, is one of them. "Shaw deserves that high of a ranking," McShay says. "He has them playing a smart brand of football, and his players who have gone to the NFL have entered the league ready to play. The only concern for Stanford three, four, five years down the line is whether it can keep him there. It's going to be up to him if he wants to make the leap to the NFL."

Current Talent: "Are they as talented person per person as maybe their record indicates? No, which is why their coaching gets such high marks," Luginbill says. "But they are a blue-collar group that has upgraded its talent, and when supported by quality QB play, they've been good." However, they are lacking in explosive playmakers; we'll see if redshirt freshman Barry J. Sanders can take on that role in coming seasons. "He's extremely gifted," Luginbill says. "In their system, he could flourish."

Recruiting: While not an annual fixture at the top of ESPN's class rankings, the Cardinal have had success on the trail. "What's so impressive about Stanford is that they have cast their net nationally," Luginbill says. "They've deviated from past regimes and aren't relegating themselves to the West Coast. Instead, they are just going out all over and finding the best players. That's paid dividends."

Title Path: "I'm not just saying this because I'm a former Husky," says Huard, "but I think the Pac-12 North is going to be as difficult as any division in college football the next few seasons -- including the SEC East and West. Oregon, Stanford and Oregon State are able to win that league in any year, Washington is on the rise and offensive masterminds Mike Leach and Sonny Dykes are now in the mix."

Program Power: The Cardinal did fine in this category, but they were docked points for resources and fan support that don't measure up compared to the other top teams in this ranking. "Football is not the priority there that it is elsewhere," Huard says. "They aren't one of those blue-blood programs that can rest on their laurels. And for that reason, it makes Stanford's margin for error smaller."
 

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georgia in the top 10 isnt bad to me. they're coaching only got a 7 could be higher.
 

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why the hell is average a s s georgia so high?

Georgia? The real question is why the hell is Michigan so high?

Brady Hoke has been coaching for ten years and still has never won a conference championship. Now we are supposed to believe he will be contending for national championships? He couldn't even win the fukking MAC as a coach. Think about that.

Hell, Michigan needs to just focus on actually winning its DIVISION before anything else.
 

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Georgia? The real question is why the hell is Michigan so high?

Brady Hoke has been coaching for ten years and still has never won a conference championship. Now we are supposed to believe he will be contending for national championships? He couldn't even win the fukking MAC as a coach. Think about that.

Hell, Michigan needs to just focus on actually winning. Its DIVISION before anything else.

Holy shyt I can't wait til my boys mop your fukkin faces in the dirt this year. You dudes swear urbans the second coming of jesus. He got the second easiest schedule in the hisrory of the game last year.. only to have this seasons schedule trump it in terms of easiness. All good tho... youll still find a way to lose 1 or 2 gimmies.. not to mention that inevitable loss to us in November. :youngsabo:
 

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I know most of you guys posting in this thread are more knowledgeable about CFB then I.

But can we admit Marcus Mariota is the best QB in CFB... :smugfavre:
 
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