1990s NBA teams vs Current teams.

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Crehs really still overrate that srry K-Nicks team :mjlol:

John Starks was their second best scorer. :mjlol:

The 99 spurs would have by far the best player in the series and id argue 2nd best with d rob. Splittwr and old duncan and diaw get abused. So parker gets by a very so what you got 2 7 footers in the paint shutting shyr down. Leonard would score but hes proven to dissapear in the playoffs seee game 6 and 7 vs the clippers. Coaching would be even.
the 1999 Spurs :mjlol:

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@Malta really the biggest difference between the 99 and 00 blazers was pippen who was 35 and had a fried back at the time playing for them

2000 isn't the 90s.
You shyt on the knicks but they were a bad john starks in game 6 away from beating a rocket team (sans drexler and a 23 9 three point distance) that you said would do serious damage in today's game.

They lost, and I clearly said it was the 94-95 Rockets that are similar to teams today, they played Robert Horry at the 4 after Thorpe was traded. In 7 games the Knicks made 36 threes in that series, the Rockets made 37 :stopitslime: The next season vs the Magic with Horry starting, the Rockets made 37 threes in 4 games. The floor was spread wide open, and Hakeem had the paint all to himself in 94-95.

Also did you ever explain why the 95 bulls starting kukoc at stretch 4 lost to orla do (a team you said would do work today) but added a pf who couldnt shoot out the paint swept that same team next year


Kukoc made 61 threes on 31%, fukk outta here with that "stretch 4" shyt, you may as well call Josh Smith a stretch 4 if you're gonna label Toni in 95 one :camby: Horace Grant played 1 game in that series vs the Bulls, they had no PF depth behind him were starting Jon Koncak next to Shaq :dead:


Your questions by in large were awful, go back to the drawing board :camby:
 

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The 99 spurs would have by far the best player in the series and id argue 2nd best with d rob. Splittwr and old duncan and diaw get abused. So parker gets by a very so what you got 2 7 footers in the paint shutting shyr down. Leonard would score but hes proven to dissapear in the playoffs seee game 6 and 7 vs the clippers. Coaching would be even.


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Avery Johnson, Mario Ellie, Sean Elliot, Jaren Jackson.....they are supposed to outplay Kawhi, Manu, Parker, Green, Mills?


Just such a horrible analysis and breakdown :scust: Duncan that year had to play 43mpg in the playoffs just for them to squeak out wins, their offense was miserable.
 

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Even if you go to the Holy Grail of 1987 (old heads favorite year in the NBA) vs 2014

1987 7 players shot 40% from 3
2014 26 players shot 40%......wow

1987 18 players shot 85% from the line
2014 20 players shot 85%

1987 20 players shot 53% from the field
2014 15 players shot 53%
(Remember, in 1987, we were still in the era of the dinosaurs who stayed 3-5 feet from the basket)

1987 13 players with 250+ turnovers....ewww
2014 8 players
 

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Even if you go to the Holy Grail of 1987 (old heads favorite year in the NBA) vs 2014

1987 7 players shot 40% from 3
2014 26 players shot 40%......wow

1987 18 players shot 85% from the line
2014 20 players shot 85%

1987 20 players shot 53% from the field
2014 15 players shot 53%
(Remember, in 1987, we were still in the era of the dinosaurs who stayed 3-5 feet from the basket)

1987 13 players with 250+ turnovers....ewww
2014 8 players


Analytics out chea changing the game.


The next great post player is going to fukking feast when he's got 4 shooters around him, gonna be so much space in the post, for activities :wow:
 

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Analytics out chea changing the game.


The next great post player is going to fukking feast when he's got 4 shooters around him, gonna be so much space in the post, for activities :wow:


Gonna look like a 1 on 1 game with 8 people standing around the arc :heh:
 

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Gonna look like a 1 on 1 game with 8 people standing around the arc :heh:


cant-wait.gif



Gonna be so emasculating for the dude to need to call for help while another nikka brutalizes him in the post, and knowing nobody else can help cause it'll be splash from 3. The hopelessness as the post dominates :blessed:
 

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So, you expect Oakley to keep up with Green in transition? Just because he's not credited with an assist in the halfcourt doesn't mean his drive didn't lead to rotation by the defense and a pass leading to the pass for the open 3.
No, I wouldn't expect Charles Oakley to be overmatched guarding a Draymond Green. You can frame the shyt however you want. Green is the quicker/faster guy but he's nowhere near as strong or imposing in the paint. Stop acting like Green is some go to offensive player.


The Grizzlies lost :dead: and stop using them as an example
they are a "non shooting" team by todays standards, but would have led the NBA in 3s the year the Knicks won 60 games.
You saying that the Grizz lost shows that the point obviously flew over your gotdamn head. What you need to stop doing is citing stars without putting them in context. The Grizz are a team that's built inside-out that doesn't feature the 3point shot similar to teams in the 90's and they proved that they could had a chance to beat the Warriors if not for injuries. That's the point.


Nevermind the fact they have more talent than those Knicks teams. Basically, who else on the Knicks could create a shot?
Bruh, who on GS besides Steph can consistently get their own shot?

Mike Conley would have been the second best player behind Pat for his entire playing career, and they have a guy like Jeff Green coming off the bench who would start for those old Knick teams. Ewing and a gang of role players isn't beating the Warriors, the fact you think they could just shows how overrated the 90s are, which is the entire point of the thread.
You need to learn to read. I never said that those 90s Knicks teams would beat this GS team. They completely different teams who played in completely different eras/leagues. I'm just refuting some of the dumb shyt that you're saying. Jeff Green is garbage I don't even know why you're bringing him up. I like Conley, but I don't know what type of player he'd be in the 90s in league that isn't geared towards guards and play on the perimeter.

Oh, and the 2014 Spurs would destroy the 98-99 Spurs.
Again, you say shyt like this as if you're unaware that the league/game is completely different now than it was then. plis you're cherry picking. What would this Warriors or Cavs teams do with the 90's Bulls? What would they do with Dream's Rockets?
 

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No, I wouldn't expect Charles Oakley to be overmatched guarding a Draymond Green. You can frame the shyt however you want. Green is the quicker/faster guy but he's nowhere near as strong or imposing in the paint. Stop acting like Green is some go to offensive player.


You saying that the Grizz lost shows that the point obviously flew over your gotdamn head. What you need to stop doing is citing stars without putting them in context. The Grizz are a team that's built inside-out that doesn't feature the 3point shot similar to teams in the 90's and they proved that they could had a chance to beat the Warriors if not for injuries. That's the point.


Bruh, who on GS besides Steph can consistently get their own shot?

You need to learn to read. I never said that those 90s Knicks teams would beat this GS team. They completely different teams who played in completely different eras/leagues. I'm just refuting some of the dumb shyt that you're saying. Jeff Green is garbage I don't even know why you're bringing him up. I like Conley, but I don't know what type of player he'd be in the 90s in league that isn't geared towards guards and play on the perimeter.

Again, you say shyt like this as if you're unaware that the league/game is completely different now than it was then. plis you're cherry picking. What would this Warriors or Cavs teams do with the 90's Bulls? What would they do with Dream's Rockets?
Kendrick Perkins is strong and imposing in the paint. :mjlol:
Oak is basically Perk with a decent mid range.
 

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No, I wouldn't expect Charles Oakley to be overmatched guarding a Draymond Green. You can frame the shyt however you want. Green is the quicker/faster guy but he's nowhere near as strong or imposing in the paint. Stop acting like Green is some go to offensive player.


You saying Oakley wouldn't be overmatched guarding him just shows you have no idea what you're talking about. The reason Green is on the floor is because he presents a matchup problem for almost every team in the league, he's strong enough to hold his own in the post, but can still stretch the floor and go off the dribble when run at. He pulls your PF from the rim because he's going to shoot the 3 when open, and can pass when you chase him off the line. They're basically playing an SF at PF, and unlike every team before them that tried to go small they're giving up almost nothing by playing him there.


You saying that the Grizz lost shows that the point obviously flew over your gotdamn head. What you need to stop doing is citing stars without putting them in context. The Grizz are a team that's built inside-out that doesn't feature the 3point shot similar to teams in the 90's and they proved that they could had a chance to beat the Warriors if not for injuries. That's the point.


It didn't fly over my head at all, you're using the Grizz as an example, yet they hit more threes than 90s teams, and even then that wasn't good enough. The thread is about taking a team from the 90s, and putting them against a team from today.


Bruh, who on GS besides Steph can consistently get their own shot?

More than the Knicks :russ: Barbosa and Livingston would be the best creators on those Knick teams :dead:

You need to learn to read. I never said that those 90s Knicks teams would beat this GS team. They completely different teams who played in completely different eras/leagues. I'm just refuting some of the dumb shyt that you're saying. Jeff Green is garbage I don't even know why you're bringing him up. I like Conley, but I don't know what type of player he'd be in the 90s in league that isn't geared towards guards and play on the perimeter.

The Knicks would get WASHED by the Warriors, you're arguing like it would be some competitive series. I don't care if they played in different eras, if you put the two teams as constructed on the floor vs one another the Warriors would win. You keep harping on the rule changes, but the core of the game is still the same, and the Warriors are stomping people because the line is still at 23'9" when the Knicks won 60 games. You're not stopping Curry at all, and your whole point is idiotic, because there were players who took 3s in the 90s, but none of them could shoot like Curry (Tim Hardaway started taking 5 a game before the line moved). Matter of fact, those perimeter oriented Warriors teams in the 90s never had trouble scoring, they just couldn't defend one bit. The high pick and roll between Curry & Green isn't going to magically stop working because it's 1993, matter of fact Oakley would get absolutely destroyed when he has to switch or jump out on Curry.

Jeff Green is better than Charles Smith, and you don't know what type of player Conley would be in the 90s? :dead: He'd be the same player he is today, your point about the rules is just dumb to be honest and is always the easy out for people who struggle with what they're seeing.

Again, you say shyt like this as if you're unaware that the league/game is completely different now than it was then. plis you're cherry picking. What would this Warriors or Cavs teams do with the 90's Bulls? What would they do with Dream's Rockets?

This Warriors team matches up extremely well with that Bulls team, we just saw LeBron go for 44, his PG get 23, they hit 9 threes, and still lost because the Warriors are perfectly happy and content to guard everyone and let LeBron go 1 on 1 with their defense. I already said the 94-95 Rockets are similar to teams today, but it's hard to know what they'd shoot from 3 because of the fact their best year was with the short 3 line :camby:
 

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:deadmanny:The 90's Knicks are a worse version of the fukking Pacers. Offense was absolutely horrendous.:trash:
It's the Garden mystique mixed with nostalgia breh.

They had a good run but it would be like Bron retiring for a few years and the Hawks making the finals this year. 15 years from now you put the whole think together and you see all these playoff appearances by the Hawks and a Finals appearance and it has you like :ohhh:. But in reality they were a solid playoff team with good fortune mixed in.
 

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Also, the rule's were changed because teams started using the ZONE in conjunction with handchecking.


Scores were starting to plummet once the 00 teams figured out how to start using the zone to their advantage, yall keep acting like Handchecking was some holy grail of defense, no it was the zone that impacted the game most and allowing teams to load the strongside while also using their hands was just too much. The 90s teams played with handchecking but not the zone, stop acting like they had to deal with both.

If you think handchecking is going to stop teams from hitting 3s you're out of touch with reality.
 
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