1990s NBA teams vs Current teams.

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So he should've been one over Wade or Paul George? :camby:


youre just pulling names out your ass.

clearly those two werent the 11th & 12th men on the team.


That's basically the logic of those stuck in the past nba fans, they go on youtube find some old school nba fights and consider that a real basketball that would dominate every era.
Talking about the hawks, the 93-94 hawks took the number one seed and 57 wins with mookie blaylock and past his prime nique/ later danny manning as their main players :mjlol: :mjlol:


.........and they didnt make it past the 2nd round & most people dont even remember them.

shoot, up until recent months, i forgot all about them getting that 1-seed myself.
 

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I'm curious about just how clouded by nostalgia some of you are, I see people constantly saying the league was better way back when. I'll be the first to admit the big men were better, however some of you are completely oblivious to what is happening in the league and how things are evolving to the point a lot of those 90s teams as they were constructed would get washed today.


Case in point, I see so many of you pointing to the Hawks as a means of putting down the league, saying they won 60 games therefore the league must be bad. However in the 92-93 & 93-94 seasons, these rosters won -

60 wins
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55 wins
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63 wins
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I know your rebuttal will be that Patrick, Payton & D-Rob were HOFers and that is correct, however these teams would get completely and utterly washed in a series by the Hawks, Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Clippers, Cavs and so on. You know why? Because they made 193, 242 and 249 threes on the entire season. For comparisons sake, the worst 3 point shooting team in the league this year hit 406 and everyone says they can't shoot :dead:. Teams would handle the Knicks, Sonics & Spurs just like they do the Grizz, shrink the floor, give up 2s and beat them with 3s on the other end, and the Grizz may as well be the Warriors with the shooting compared to these 90s teams. Against the 90s Jazz, Knicks, Cavs, Suns, Hornets, etc teams today would just pack the paint and dare them to win games from outside because they straight up and down couldn't do it. Even the mighty 91-93 Bulls..their highest total during that 3 year stretch was 244.



There has been a shift in the league, and alot of those 90s teams you all praise so much would not last long in the current NBA. I won't really address the seasons from 94-97, mainly because they had the short 3 point line and you started to see teams firing them shyts up with no regard. That said, you cannot beat the teams in the NBA today without ample 3 point shooting because they are all good at taking advantage of the zone principles thanks to Tom Thibodeau, they want you to take long 2s, they want you to dribble in and take that mid-range jumper rather than shooting the corner 3. You might say "Pat/D-Rob gonna go for 50!" yeah on 20-41 while his teammates would get 30, while opposing teams today hoist up 35 threes making 12 of them.

"But Malta, you the low post fan!"

Yes, and eventually this new style of play is going to lead to a devastating post player with a team built around him that can shoot. You could catch glimpses of how hard it is to stop with the 94-95 Rockets and Magic to a lesser extent, they were the first step in the evolutionary ladder that has brought on this style of play. Once the Rockets got rid of Thorpe and gave Horry the start at PF, they almost always had 4 floor spacers out there with Hakeem. I welcome all these 3s with open arms because I know that the evolution of the game will then call for someone who can get you 2 when you need it, and what better way to build a 3 point shooting team than with a big you can run offense through who will be going 1 on 1 with his defender because his 4 teammates are waiting for that open 3.


Basically watching yall constantly overrate the 90s is disgusting, you can't even give me a realistic argument how some of these teams would overcome the massive shooting disadvantage. No team that's making 3-4 threes a game is beating one that makes 10-12, period. You can talk about handchecking and how tough they were, but from a team standpoint the vast majority of squads today are straight up humiliating those from the 90s. @Jplaya2023 please help me understand how your vaunted 90s teams would beat teams today, how would they get them out of the faux zone which is built around the purpose of limiting points in the paint, giving up long 2s and limiting corner 3s..which they didn't even shoot :dead:
In most sports the older generation teams would probably get smoked by bad to ok modern teams . Players are generally bigger stronger more athletic and plus rule changes would be having teams lookin like :sadcam::mjcry::dwillhuh:
 

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youre just pulling names out your ass.

clearly those two werent the 11th & 12th men on the team.





.........and they didnt make it past the 2nd round & most people dont even remember them.

shoot, up until recent months, i forgot all about them getting that 1-seed myself.
Are you aware that you can't just replace any random guy on the roster with him? Let's include point guards then. There is Irving and rondo who was still playing well at the time. If you want to include forwards then there's LeBron and Carmelo. Smith doesn't fit on the all star roster. Try again buddy.
 

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CP3 aint never won nothin. and the knicks wouldve butt-raped blake.
As opposed to all those rings the Knicks have:mjlol:

half the stuff steph does wouldve been a no-go. he probably wouldnt even try it.
I'm beginning to think you didn't even watch basketball in the 90s. I saw AI foul out every pg on the Knicks roster in a game. They were down to Scotty Brooks.:pachaha:
 

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Are you aware that you can't just replace any random guy on the roster with him? .


NO CHIT CHERLOCK.

:yawn:


As opposed to all those rings the Knicks have:mjlol:


I'm beginning to think you didn't even watch basketball in the 90s. I saw AI foul out every pg on the Knicks roster in a game. They were down to Scotty Brooks.:pachaha:


this dude talking about iverson.:laugh: and he wants to throw insults on top of that.

clearly, im referring to the early-mid '90s knicks.
 

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The thread is nonsensical because he game/league is completely different now. The NBA deliberately changed the rules and how the game is called to make it more offensive friendly and perimeter oriented. You can't just plug in a 90's team in today's league vs today's teams without taking those huge factors into consideration. This is a silly thread pushing a clear agenda.
As opposed to all those rings the Knicks have:mjlol:


I'm beginning to think you didn't even watch basketball in the 90s. I saw AI foul out every pg on the Knicks roster in a game. They were down to Scotty Brooks.:pachaha:
Yea because Steph goes to the cup as relentlessly as prime AI did. Don't ever question anyone else's basketball IQ.
 

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if its not any trouble, some squads that i want to add to this conversation:
early '90s supersonics
mid '90s supersonics
hornets
warriors
suns
magic
how well do yall think they wouldve faired in the league nowadays. i think these squads wouldve been even better suited for this era.

:popcorn::popcorn:

A young Shaq and Penny before injury would of crushed most of these teams out today! AND they were surrounded by shooters that hit the tre! The only hindrance was that was how the Hack-a-Shaq was born.
 

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The thread is nonsensical because he game/league is completely different now. The NBA deliberately changed the rules and how the game is called to make it more offensive friendly and perimeter oriented. You can't just plug in a 90's team in today's league vs today's teams without taking those huge factors into consideration. This is a silly thread pushing a clear agenda.
Yea because Steph goes to the cup as relentlessly as prime AI did. Don't ever question anyone else's basketball IQ.

The point is they couldn't guard sh*t. Charlie Ward was the starting pg on a Knicks Finals team.
 

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So you deny that those teams played really good team defense?

Of course not. They were a great defensive team for their era, but when trying to gauge how they would fare against today's teams/offenses we have to look at their opponents. Pacers were the Knicks biggest rivals at the times. They didn't have anybody on their roster who could create their own shot. Their biggest offensive threat was Reggie Miller and he couldn't dribble and didn't pass well. Its a lot easier to defend non-athletic one-dimensional rosters like that than it is to deal with a squad/scheme like GS.

Oakley was a great and tough low post defender, but he would struggle with any elite PF in today's game, Aldridge, Davis, Blake, Green etc. Charles Smith would have no chance to guard the 3s in this era and Doc Rivers would foul out of every game. Those guys would also have trouble scoring against today's defensive schemes.

It's also much easier to adopt to the more physical play than it is to adopt to teams who are quicker, stronger more skilled and better coached offensively and defensively.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
A young Shaq and Penny before injury would of crushed most of these teams out today! AND they were surrounded by shooters that hit the tre! The only hindrance was that was how the Hack-a-Shaq was born.


I cited the Magic as one of the teams that are similar to current teams in the original post, their weakness as it relates to the current NBA was at PF though, Grant really wouldn't play with Shaq today.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
The thread is nonsensical because he game/league is completely different now. The NBA deliberately changed the rules and how the game is called to make it more offensive friendly and perimeter oriented. You can't just plug in a 90's team in today's league vs today's teams without taking those huge factors into consideration. This is a silly thread pushing a clear agenda.
Yea because Steph goes to the cup as relentlessly as prime AI did. Don't ever question anyone else's basketball IQ.


The agenda is that the NBA today is better than the 90s ball.


If you can't plug teams into the league, tell muthafukkas to stop saying teams from the 90s would beat damn near every team from today, because that simply would not happen. You could take teams from the 80s and they'd be competitive vs the 90s squads, the same does not apply here :smugbiden:
 

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Of course not. They were a great defensive team for their era, but when trying to gauge how they would fare against today's teams/offenses we have to look at their opponents. Pacers were the Knicks biggest rivals at the times. They didn't have anybody on their roster who could create their own shot. Their biggest offensive threat was Reggie Miller and he couldn't dribble and didn't pass well. Its a lot easier to defend non-athletic one-dimensional rosters like that than it is to deal with a squad/scheme like GS.

Oakley was a great and tough low post defender, but he would struggle with any elite PF in today's game, Aldridge, Davis, Blake, Green etc. Charles Smith would have no chance to guard the 3s in this era and Doc Rivers would foul out of every game. Those guys would also have trouble scoring against today's defensive schemes.

It's also much easier to adopt to the more physical play than it is to adopt to teams who are quicker, stronger more skilled and better coached offensively and defensively.
Hold up, Green is an elite pf that a guy like Oakley would have trouble guarding? He's not even a got to offensive player. He gets his points hitting open shots working off of those other guys.

Doc was a pretty good defensive point guard.

I like Barnes and think he's an underrated player for the Warriors, but why couldn't Charles Smith guard him?

Kerr is a better coach than Pat Riley? Bruh, you're just talking. You're not making a good case at all.
I cited the Magic as one of the teams that are similar to current teams in the original post, their weakness as it relates to the current NBA was at PF though, Grant really wouldn't play with Shaq today.
There's absolutely no reason that he couldn't. How much better would you say that Magic was than this current Clippers team?
 
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