129 Chicago Public Schools are Closing

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a school is not a single entity, so I don't understand how anybody on either side of the argument can easily lay blame to "a school."

How can "a school" fail its students? Is it not composed of children and adults? Is it not dependent on local, state and federal taxes? Are its policies not a product of local, state and federal law? Do you not realize there are different requirements and incentives for teachers to work in certain counties/cities (i.e NY city public school teacher vs a Long Island public school teacher)?

The school failed the students?
 

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a school is not a single entity, so I don't understand how anybody on either side of the argument can easily lay blame to "a school."

How can "a school" fail its students? Is it not composed of children and adults? Is it not dependent on local, state and federal taxes? Are its policies not a product of local, state and federal law? Do you not realize there are different requirements and incentives for teachers to work in certain counties/cities (i.e NY city public school teacher vs a Long Island public school teacher)?

The school failed the students?
I like how the responsibility falls square on the schools. That's a common fallacy people without kids make. IMHO if the students failed primary responsibility falls on the parents, with marginal "splash blame" possibly falling on the schools.

We de-funded and de-clawed schools then get upset when they can't make miracles happen :childplease:

As TWIMMY said, they are opening up as charters, i don't see the issue.

IF the focus is on helping the kids get an education does it matter where it comes from?

Now if you want to argue the success or failure of charter schools then we can do that.

My biggest concern as I'm sure most concerns are going to be is that this will ultimately be MORE expensive and less effective and less humane, i.e. private prisons.

IF, however, these charter schools are REGULATED to correctly this could be good...

And let's keep it 100....
You really can only get better from where they were.
 

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its never going to happen anyway because u cant force kids to be home schooled plus you have to send a individual tutor/teacher to each home to educate the children which would cost more money instead of teaching 20-40 kids in a single classroom with 1 teacher, your talking about the most gang plagued city in the country, some of these kids go to school to escape the gangs or what not but forcing them to be in there home everyday In high crime areas with no extra curricular activities will make crime go, some of these kids parents arent in there lives or there at work which gives them freedom to do whatever they want.

look up the high crime areas in chicago such as austin, englewood, lawndale, grand crossing ect where there are a very high number of assults and robberies on students even waiting for the bus to go to school in the morning, just imagine if all those kids from the same neiguborhoods are forced to be home schooled daily and are all in the streets instead of school everyday :ld:
 

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a kid has crappy parents... then what? is he doomed for life? or does our society have other options?
We should discuss Child protective services then because as it stands YES, the kids is just assed out right now without a boarding school of some sorts...
 

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ya'll blaming the schools for real ? ... blame the parents :pacspit:

I blame everybody, that's why the school should be shut down, shutting down a school is a reset button, what I find funny is that people act like kids will have no place to go to school, the kids get moved to other schools and other schools get reopened with new teachers and principals, so I fail to see how shutting down a school is some kind of disaster, shutting down a school is a chance to start over

also from the articles I read the reason for shutting down schoolsnin chicago is that the student population is declining so a lot of schools are under utilized
 

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Lets be real, Alot of these kids just don't give a fukk :russ: it doesn't matter who's teaching them they just don't CARE

Even when we were in MS/HS, they were kids who didnt care and literally didnt show up. How is that the school's fault?
 

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Lets be real, Alot of these kids just don't give a fukk :russ: it doesn't matter who's teaching them they just don't CARE

Even when we were in MS/HS, they were kids who didnt care and literally didnt show up. How is that the school's fault?

kids don't just NOT give a fuk by themselves, or rather they do and that's what parents are needed for. IMHO that's a sign of child neglect.
 

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CPS Commission Finds that Chicago Can Close 80 Schools in One Year - Yahoo! News

Highlights from article:

* Moving forward, CPS is working from a list of 129 schools that is set to be whittled down by the end of the month. The 80 school closings suggested by the commission are considered to be flexible, added NBC Chicago.

* Other issues still persist as a Chicago Sun-Times analysis found that nine out of 10 students potentially impacted by the school closings are African-American.

* Of the 129 schools on the current list, 103 have at least a 90 percent black student population and nine have a Hispanic majority.

* The major disparities in the impacts among racial groups could set the district up for a major lawsuit when pursuing school closures.


Chicago is burning & Obama is gearing up to go to Israel

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJL6nfu__Q[/ame]
 

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CPS Commission Finds that Chicago Can Close 80 Schools in One Year - Yahoo! News

Highlights from article:

* Moving forward, CPS is working from a list of 129 schools that is set to be whittled down by the end of the month. The 80 school closings suggested by the commission are considered to be flexible, added NBC Chicago.

* Other issues still persist as a Chicago Sun-Times analysis found that nine out of 10 students potentially impacted by the school closings are African-American.

* Of the 129 schools on the current list, 103 have at least a 90 percent black student population and nine have a Hispanic majority.

* The major disparities in the impacts among racial groups could set the district up for a major lawsuit when pursuing school closures.


Chicago is burning & Obama is gearing up to go to Israel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJL6nfu__Q

yawn

the sooner they close these schools the better
 

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Where is the solution to it?

the solution is to switch them to charter schools, vouchers or other public schools

its nowhere as serious as people are making it out to be, this weeping and gnashing of teeth is purely emotional, most of the schools that get shut down will most likely re-open as charter schools anyways
 
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