12 Years a Slave Sweeps NY Film critics circle awards. Mcqueen gets heckled by furious NY cacs/c00ns

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I will say one thing. I am tired of seeing movies being made about slavery and being a black servant. We have had enough of those. How about some movies about subsaharan african rule, or in blacks in a position of authority with class? All this denigration shyt is getting old and tired.

We can get those films made, we just gotta support black cinema, and I don't mean just a black director. I mean an entirely black cast and crew, black writers, sound engineers, etc. etc. Whites will claim reverse racism, but who cares. It would be amazing to see an entirely black made screenplay that portrays black civilizations and life before white devil came into contact with us. With the power of word of mouth I'm pretty certain it can happen.
 

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We can get those films made, we just gotta support black cinema, and I don't mean just a black director. I mean an entirely black cast and crew, black writers, sound engineers, etc. etc. Whites will claim reverse racism, but who cares. It would be amazing to see an entirely black made screenplay that portrays black civilizations and life before white devil came into contact with us. With the power of word of mouth I'm pretty certain it can happen.

It would require a substantial budget.

On top of that, no matter how much word of mouth it gets, few whites would be raring to see a movie that alienates them ( which is no doubt what a lot of the press would center around) and I don't think blacks would be going to see a movie about ancient kingdoms at the same rate they go see Madea or Best Man-type films.

Which means the black filmmakers would almost certainly be working at a loss. Huge budget, not-as-huge turnout. It would be a pleasant surprise if they even came close to breaking even. I don't know if that's a risk a filmmaker would be willing to take.
 
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I don't get why people act like there's a ton of movies on slavery....there's not.

The movie was well executed and portrayed a real era in this country, that it seemed Hollywood had been content to ignore. Before Django, I believe Amistad is the only movie that really showed it in my lifetime. How many holocaust movies did we have?

And this movie touched on an issue that I don't think was really well known by most Americans: the kidnapping of freeman.

I swear, some folks have a persistent inferiority complex which makes them find slight in everything. This movie showed white folks as straight devils (including their proper ladies) and folks are still complaining :mindblown:
 

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It would require a substantial budget.

On top of that, no matter how much word of mouth it gets, few whites would be raring to see a movie that alienates them ( which is no doubt what a lot of the press would center around) and I don't think blacks would be going to see a movie about ancient kingdoms at the same rate they go see Madea or Best Man-type films.

Which means the black filmmakers would almost certainly be working at a loss. Huge budget, not-as-huge turnout. It would be a pleasant surprise if they even came close to breaking even. I don't know if that's a risk a filmmaker would be willing to take.

Someone else mentioned a kick starter, and if actors like Will Smith and Denzel are really about supporting their people they could come up with the budget. I think you're being too hard on us, it's a lot of educating that could be done if films like this came to fruition.
 
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Someone else mentioned a kick starter, and if actors like Will Smith and Denzel are really about supporting their people they could come up with the budget. I think you're being too hard on us, it's a lot of educating that could be done if films like this came to fruition.


People generally don't go to the movies to get educated tho. It's gotta be about entertainment, first and foremost.
 

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So much ignorance.

Black director. Black writer. And a true story.

But carry on.


And Armond White is a plague on film criticism. This isn't the first time he's heckled people at awards shows either. He's is, like Roger Ebert said, nothing more than a troll using his wildly contrarian reviews to promote himself.

I would love to seem him review a film BEFORE he reads others reviews of it or has any feel for the buzz surrounding it. Every review he writes anymore read like responses to other critics reviews. fukk him

:skip: You not putting me on any type of game breh, I know that the director is a black man, as well as the writer. I understand it's based on a true story. With all that said,its not a "black" movie in my eyes. And I had the views I had on this movie before this incident. I don't know who Armond White is and could care less. His opinion doesn't affect mine. I don't need to heckle Steve McQueen, not supporting the movie is good enough for me.

So there is nothing ignorant about the way I am carrying on. I understand all of the facts at hand and I feel the way I feel. Don't confuse someone having a difference in opinion as being ignorant. People can and will have different views.

I refuse to support some shyt like this for my own reasons, not because the opinion of another man. I 'm not a follower breh.



Listen idiot. No one is advocating AGAINST reading books. All were saying is that ITS OKAY TO SUPPORT MOVIES ABOUT SLAVERY IF THEIR ACCURATE AND DONE WELL. I read extensively, and rarely watch TV. However, when good media is released, we must support it. This will definitely be a Blu-Ray purchase for me no doubt.


Its obvious that a movie that depicts the harsh realities of slavery in such a raw and visceral manner can make you feel some type of way, be you white or black. This fear of dealing with the realities of slavery and racism in this country is part of the reason were so dysfuncitonal as a nation now. If both whites and blacks quit being scared bytches and start dealing with slavery and its repercussions on the African-American people, perhaps healing can occur.

Running from subjects that evoke strong emotions is cowardly breh.

First of all, watch your fukking tone lil buddy. I'm in here giving out my opinion on why I don't support these recent movies that show black people in subservient positions. I'm not in here calling people c00ns or shyt like that, and not once have I disrespected another poster discussing this shyt. I think I even dapped your post in another thread about this where you were saying how the younger filmmakers needed to be more on their independent shyt. That's because I know how to have a civil conversation without reverting to insults. That calling people idiot shyt gotta:camby:

That shyt is childish and immature. We are speaking on a serious subject. You need to articulate your self in a manner that is not disrespectful to others, and not revert to name calling tactics. A lot of people in here dropping knowledge for both sides of the argument, I don't think any of us or idiots.

Now, I strongly disagree with the opinion of some people in this thread, as I'm sure you do, but we can continue to agree to disagree without throwing shots at each other.

Now, to respond to rest of your post. The reason why I refuse to support this film is not because I'm scared:why: The Eyes On The Prize docs I posted had some harsh scenes in it as well. And these type of films don't evoke strong emotions in me. I already know my history, Hollywood can't put me up on game. It's not like I would go see 12 Years a Slave, and want to kill somebody, or be all sad for month. I'm not that type of dude. I just think it's pointless to go see The Help, The Butler, 12 Years a Slave, Django without any type of movies that show us in a positive light or in powerful roles to balance it out.

I will say it again. All the black movies with "buzz" or award consideration recently, have been the aforementioned films. That's not cool at all.
 

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are too drive the point further and your brain dead ass c00ns
Chiwetel Ejiofor was in AMISTAD as well
so you telling the biggest movies this nikka been both about slavery
you don't see this shyt breh, you don't see how this jew ran business is boxing nikkaz in

He played a free, educated man in Amistad. :what:

This is just another thread for the fake ass black militants to troll others on this board.

BTW, Ejiofor is playing Patrice Lumumba in a movie coming up this year. I bet you fake ass Marcus Garveys will find something to complain about that too.
 
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:what: this movie made those demonic cacs look like the devils they are breh

Cacs love these movies though thats why the always up for nominations you have the understand the psyche of these devils
mcqueen fetishes the abuse of the body just like tarantino.
He played a free, educated man in Amistad. :what:

You still don't get what I'm saying, as good an actor as he is, the most acclaimed films he's been in have been slave movies
only time black actors get any type of recognition from the industry it has to do with slavery
Mcqueen made this movie, because he wanted a goddamn oscar
you have ask yourself why is this
 

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You still don't get what I'm saying, as good an actor as he is, the most acclaimed films he's been in have been slave movies
only time black actors get any type of recognition from the industry it has to do with slavery
Mcqueen made this movie, because he wanted a goddamn oscar
you have ask yourself why is this

No, the movies where you KNOW of him being in were slave movies. He's also been in great movies like American Gangster, Dirty Pretty Things, Children of Men, Inside Man, and Talk to Me. He's been in 30 flicks, and the only ones you know of were slave movies, one of which he didn't even play a fuckin' slave.

Maybe Mcqueen wanted to make this movie because he wanted to tell the story of Solomon Northup. It's an inspiring story that people should know about.
 

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No, the movies where you KNOW of him being in were slave movies. He's also been in great movies like American Gangster, Dirty Pretty Things, Children of Men, Inside Man, and Talk to Me. He's been in 30 flicks, and the only ones you know of were slave movies, one of which he didn't even play a fuckin' slave.

He trollin breh.
 

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No, the movies where you KNOW of him being in were slave movies. He's also been in great movies like American Gangster, Dirty Pretty Things, Children of Men, Inside Man, and Talk to Me. He's been in 30 flicks, and the only ones you know of were slave movies, one of which he didn't even play a fuckin' slave.

Maybe Mcqueen wanted to make this movie because he wanted to tell the story of Solomon Northup. It's an inspiring story that people should know about.
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And for some Black film perspective:

The Best Man Holiday- 70 million dollars
12 Years A Slave- 38 million dollars

The movie about the rich beautiful professional black folks has earned almost twice as much as the slave movie. But but but....

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=bestman2.htm
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=twelveyearsaslave.htm
 
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