106 & Park Was Truly The Culture's Last Stand

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Too cool for school coli revisionist history at it again :dead:
I ain't even finished reading this thread yet but you beat me to it...

106 was a kid's show. We adored it because we were kids when it was out. I'm not saying that it wasn't good for The Culture, it had its place...

Most mf's aged outta watching that shyt by the end of college/college-age (22-23, round to 25 if you wanna be super generous)...

And alot of us stopped watching it in high school, I did. The last year I probably watched it religiously was probably like '04 (15), maybe summer '05 the last time I remember really watching it, so I was 16. Off top of my head I believe that's when AJ and Free left...

Only adults over 25 I knew who watched it were jail nikkas because you could see videos and bytches. I never knew a single 25+ watching that shyt on the street, I really don't think I knew anyone over 22 watching it...

It was a kid's show and was impactful for The Culture but....it was a kid's show. It wasn't all that, nikkas loved it because they were kids...
 

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I ain't even finished reading this thread yet but you beat me to it...

106 was a kid's show. We adored it because we were kids when it was out. I'm not saying that it wasn't good for The Culture, it had its place...

Most mf's aged outta watching that shyt by the end of college/college-age (22-23, round to 25 if you wanna be super generous)...

And alot of us stopped watching it in high school, I did. The last year I probably watched it religiously was probably like '04 (15), maybe summer '05 the last time I remember really watching it, so I was 16. Off top of my head I believe that's when AJ and Free left...

Only adults over 25 I knew who watched it were jail nikkas because you could see videos and bytches. I never knew a single 25+ watching that shyt on the street, I really don't think I knew anyone over 22 watching it...

It was a kid's show and was impactful for The Culture but....it was a kid's show. It wasn't all that, nikkas loved it because they were kids...

It was more than just a kid's show. Again, this was one of the few shows out where every major star debuted their videos. I'm sure people still remember seeing Beyonce's "Crazy In Love" for the first time, Kiss premiering "Why", Kanye's early videos. All this was before you could just pull it up on Youtube. This was far more than just the teeny bopper Pop tart show it started out as.
 

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It was more than just a kid's show. Again, this was one of the few shows out where every major star debuted their videos. I'm sure people still remember seeing Beyonce's "Crazy In Love" for the first time, Kiss premiering "Why", Kanye's early videos. All this was before you could just pull it up on Youtube. This was far more than just the teeny bopper Pop tart show it started out as.
I mean in retrospect, it never truly outgrew that teeny bopper-to-college kids demographic. Everything around that show was marketed for kids...

We all loved it because we were teeny boppers-to-college aged at the time...

They had moments they gave a few minutes to politics and current events outside hip hop, but no adult was going to the show for that because it's bread and butter was the kids. And it never truly transitioned outta that, adults 25+ were not fukking with it like that. There were better places to see and hear music without the cheesy kiddie shyt...

It had its place and I do think it's an important piece of black television in the 2000s. It lasted 14 years, multiple host changes, was BET's bread and butter. And the youth drives "new" and exciting shyt in black culture and catering to youth made that show a success and BET (and it's owners) a lot of money. It certainly could be entertaining....

But I don't look back on it and think it was unforgettable, I forget about it all the time until it's mentioned šŸ¤£ if you're from NY area it probably means more to you, and kids all over the country fukked with it ..

But it was very clearly programming geared to teens and college kids...
 

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Just to contextualize my point, it was an awesome answer to TRL and it helped push black music on a larger platform because the white networks, and white people in general, paid attention to it...

So it's a relevant black history note for black TV in the 00s. But many people would tell you it wasn't the best BET show overall, and I think as far as iconic black TV goes, the black sitcom golden era of the 90s (and maybe up to the mid-00s) is far more relevant and iconic to black TV history, and The Culture, than 106 was...

The black sitcom golden era crossed genres and certainly included highlights of black music, reached a wider audience, covered wwaaaayyyyyy more themes and topics than 106 and managed to do this by appealing to kids and adults alike...

106 was good but most of us wouldn't have paid it much thought if we were at least 25 in '00...
 

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I mean in retrospect, it never truly outgrew that teeny bopper-to-college kids demographic. Everything around that show was marketed for kids...

We all loved it because we were teeny boppers-to-college aged at the time...

They had moments they gave a few minutes to politics and current events outside hip hop, but no adult was going to the show for that because it's bread and butter was the kids. And it never truly transitioned outta that, adults 25+ were not fukking with it like that. There were better places to see and hear music without the cheesy kiddie shyt...

It had its place and I do think it's an important piece of black television in the 2000s. It lasted 14 years, multiple host changes, was BET's bread and butter. And the youth drives "new" and exciting shyt in black culture and catering to youth made that show a success and BET (and it's owners) a lot of money. It certainly could be entertaining....

But I don't look back on it and think it was unforgettable, I forget about it all the time until it's mentioned šŸ¤£ if you're from NY area it probably means more to you, and kids all over the country fukked with it ..

But it was very clearly programming geared to teens and college kids...

It became bigger than and definitelyboutgrew just being a teen show because a lot of the music that once dominated 106 became irrelevant by 2006. The culture had moved on from Nelly, Bow Wow, B2K (Omarion), Ja Rule, etc. On the R&B side, we weren't seeing Ashanti dominate a countdown. Destiny's Child was retired and Beyonce was finding herself with B'Day era of her career. 106 was now dominated by the T.I.'s, Wayne's, and Kanye's. There was Jeezy. There was Snap. On the R&B side, there was Keyshia Cole, Lloyd, Mary was still huge, Mariah had her big comeback. Alicia Keys was still huge.
 

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Just to contextualize my point, it was an awesome answer to TRL and it helped push black music on a larger platform because the white networks, and white people in general, paid attention to it...

So it's a relevant black history note for black TV in the 00s. But many people would tell you it wasn't the best BET show overall, and I think as far as iconic black TV goes, the black sitcom golden era of the 90s (and maybe up to the mid-00s) is far more relevant and iconic to black TV history, and The Culture, than 106 was...

The black sitcom golden era crossed genres and certainly included highlights of black music, reached a wider audience, covered wwaaaayyyyyy more themes and topics than 106 and managed to do this by appealing to kids and adults alike...

106 was good but most of us wouldn't have paid it much thought if we were at least 25 in '00...

I never said it was the best BET show. I said it was the culture's "LAST" stand. It was the last time we saw our biggest stars gravitate toward something because it was nearly necessary for their success or failure.

You're making an entirely different argument.
 

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Anybody who gave a fukk about 106 & park after AJ & Free left must have been mad young

everybody and they momma stopped watching back then

by 2006 anything interesting on cable would be on youtube the next day

Right.

106 & Park went down hill when they started catering to little kids.
 

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Just to contextualize my point, it was an awesome answer to TRL and it helped push black music on a larger platform because the white networks, and white people in general, paid attention to it...

So it's a relevant black history note for black TV in the 00s. But many people would tell you it wasn't the best BET show overall, and I think as far as iconic black TV goes, the black sitcom golden era of the 90s (and maybe up to the mid-00s) is far more relevant and iconic to black TV history, and The Culture, than 106 was...

The black sitcom golden era crossed genres and certainly included highlights of black music, reached a wider audience, covered wwaaaayyyyyy more themes and topics than 106 and managed to do this by appealing to kids and adults alike...

106 was good but most of us wouldn't have paid it much thought if we were at least 25 in '00...

I liked video music box better....and they would play re-runs late late night....come home faded and lock in. they would be in clubs and shyt 2 doing interviews it was dope AF
 
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