10 Wins aint what it used to be: Official 2016 New York Jets Offseason thread

[King P]

When will a Wilkerson trade be decided on?

May not really be decided til the week of the draft

 

[King P]

I was reading that Maccagnan has been scouting Goff since the beginning of the season. Seems to me that he really likes him.

Not only is Goff the only QB that I'd feel 100% comfortable taking, but I'm even warming up to the idea of trading up for him

 

[King P]

So he's another Bryce petty ? A project because Goff didn't play in no pro style offense either and will have to transition to how nfl operates. Pass

1) Goff is way better and more pro ready than Petty
2) Pro-style is such an outdated term. Even pro teams are starting to move away from the old traditional offenses of the past. Many teams are operating out of spread-based shotgun offenses. So the transition won't be a huge one.
3) Not all spread offenses are the same. When Petty was at Baylor the system he ran had him making one read and that was it. Goff did not run a one read offense at Cal. He went through multiple progressions and was able to find open receivers. He was also very good when it came to reading defense.

If we drafted Goff, guarantee we wouldn't need to sit him for as long as you think. He'd be on the field by Week 7

 

[Brozay]

Hmmmm. Nah. No swaps. your first and 4th is a compromise

We good then

 

[King P]

@Brozay It's been reported that the Bears are unlikely to trade for Wilkerson

Earlier in the week, MMQB's Peter King wrote that he believes any team looking to trade for New York Jets D-lineman Muhammad Wilkerson better be ready to offer more than just a first-round selection. As King sees it, Wilkerson is "one of the five best defensive linemen in football, by any measure" and worthy of netting the Jets "picks in the first and third or fourth round," in return. By this measure, Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune sees very little chance that theChicago Bears will swing a deal for Wilkerson, despite the Bears being mentioned as a top possible landing spot.

While the Jets are open to trading Wilkerson, Biggs believes Bears general manager Ryan Pace places too high a premium on draft picks to make a good trade partner for New York, despite the high-profile deal he swung with the Jets last offseason. In Biggs' opinion, Chicago has a plan in place to use the next three draft classes to "lay the foundation for what they want to have." To give up the two picks King believes necessary to acquire Wilkerson would throw a wrench in the "build through the draft" strategy Biggs believes Chicago wants to follow.

By giving up a first-round pick for such a high-priced player like Wilkerson, whom Biggs expects will want a new contract in the neighborhood of Malik Jackson's recent deal with the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Bears will be giving up on the cheap labor that comes with the first four years of a rookie contract. Biggs writes, "Let’s say, just for the sake of argument, Wilkerson could be signed to a deal averaging $16 million per season. That’s still going to be about $4 million more than the 11th pick in this draft will get over the next four seasons combined."

NFL Rumor Central: Bears unlikely to trade for Wilkerson

Take it for what it's worth though

 

[King Crimson]

We good then

Swap firsts and give us your second.

 

[Brozay]

Swap firsts and give us your second.

Nah

 

[King Crimson]

Nah

Talks are off.

 

[King P]

A swap of 1sts and a 3rd should do it

 

[Marlostanfield.]

1) Goff is way better and more pro ready than Petty
2) Pro-style is such an outdated term. Even pro teams are starting to move away from the old traditional offenses of the past. Many teams are operating out of spread-based shotgun offenses. So the transition won't be a huge one.
3) Not all spread offenses are the same. When Petty was at Baylor the system he ran had him making one read and that was it. Goff did not run a one read offense at Cal. He went through multiple progressions and was able to find open receivers. He was also very good when it came to reading defense.

If we drafted Goff, guarantee we wouldn't need to sit him for as long as you think. He'd be on the field by Week 7

Alright, we shall see what happens. I don't watch college football like that so you know more about him than I so I take your word and see what the jets do. They might take a quarterback seeing as Fitz is in limbo.

 

[Trip]

The team needs to really stop trading picks for veterans, or else this new regime is going to have their dikks in their hands by year 3.

 

[King P]

OT info/rumors via Tony Pauline...

New York Jets


Is an offensive tackle still in the cards for the New York Jets in Round 1 even after the team traded for Ryan Clady? Most people tell me yes,
and the team is bringing Jason Spriggs of Indiana to their Florham Park facility for an official "30" visit on Thursday. Spriggs is considered
by many as the best pure left tackle in the draft after Laremy Tunsil. The Hoosier senior has already been on trips to visit the Denver Broncos,
New Orleans Saints, Atlanta Falcons and Detroit Lions, besides working out for the Tennessee Titans and Baltimore Ravens.

Signing Ryan Clady to an agreeable contract was the perfect move for the Jets.

Months ago, I posted the Jets are very high on tackle Brent Qvale, an undrafted free agent they signed in 2014. And to reiterate what I said
at the time, this information comes from a variety of sources including teammates who practiced against him during the week. The signing of
Clady tells me while the Jets like Qvale, they may not trust him enough to stick him into the starting lineup just yet. I'm told Qvale lined
up at both left and right tackle during weekly practice in 2015.

Sources tell me the likely scenario has Qvale eventually replacing right tackle Breno Giacomini in 2017 if he continues to develop and show

2016 NFL Draft Rumors by Tony Pauline: WalterFootball.com

 

[King P]

 

[King Crimson]

@Trip
How does this make you feel, breh?

 

[Trip]

@Trip
How does this make you feel, breh?

Indifferent. It's hardball by both sides.