10/23 ESPN: Jamel Herring vs Shakur Stevenson (WBO Super Featherweight Title)

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[Newark88]

Shoutout to Newark's own Shakur Stevenson on an excellent bout. It's a beauty to watch this kid grow from the amateurs to now.

 

[Reggie]

i think the bigger thing is how long will he stay at 130...unfortunately 130 is like a resting stop division....no one stays that long to unify a belt minimum before moving on...shakur did mention at the post fight presser that he wanted to work towards a superfight with gervonta davis which pretty much means he isnt long for 130...i do believe shakur will at least try to unify with valdez next year before making any moves to 135

Yeah at best he'll fight another fight and then Valdez and move on up. But him Tank Lopez and Haney should be getting it on sooner than later so we can truly see who the best is between all of them.

 

[patscorpio]

Nah

yeah...im not overtly high on valdez...he struggles too much...so much that the berchelt fight is an aberration on his record..he looked incredibly mid his last fight out

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

yeah...im not overtly high on valdez...he struggles too much...so much that the berchelt fight is an aberration on his record..he looked incredibly mid his last fight out

Punch for punch I think Berchelt hits harder than Shakur and Valdez handled his power well. Shakur isn't gonna have a massive speed advantage on Valdez either. Shakur showed me he can put combinations together and all that, but Shakur has no power man. He beat Herring up, but he didn't never had him close to getting stopped, just taking punishment. I'm telling you just like I told you before the Valdez-Berchelt fight Valdez was gonna win, don't be suprised if when they fight that shyt ends in a draw or some shyt.

 

[threattonature]

Punch for punch I think Berchelt hits harder than Shakur and Valdez handled his power well. Shakur isn't gonna have a massive speed advantage on Valdez either. Shakur showed me he can put combinations together and all that, but Shakur has no power man. He beat Herring up, but he didn't never had him close to getting stopped, just taking punishment. I'm telling you just like I told you before the Valdez-Berchelt fight Valdez was gonna win, don't be suprised if when they fight that shyt ends in a draw or some shyt.

Shaker’s power is like Mayweather to me. They may not have pure raw power but they land so clean and crisp that it will be able to knock the aggressiveness out of fighters and have them thinking twice of coming in and throwing recklessly. Obviously Shakur has to go further to prove that but I see it happening.

 

[True Blue Moon]

This fight reminded me so much of Gatti/Mayweather. Down to the turning up the volume on being as a$$hole in the pre-fight buildup for the first time and then coming out to prove something.

 

[alpo]

Racism in Boxing is deeply engrained … I get what dude is saying. When it comes to Loma it’s “aw man, the fans need to know how GREAT HE IS. Look at the footwork! Did you see that?! How he controls Toyota Corolla’s lead hand?! Watch that again fans you’re watching a boxing savant who may be greater than that nig… guy Floyd Mayweather who’s probably watching this fight scared to come out of retirement to fight him”

They do the shyt all the time. Young black fighter with skills and boxes smart. “I mean he has the speed advantage, and he’s clearly physically stronger he needs to knock this guy out. Stop all that boxing shyt ! Why is he waiting for this guy?”

They are inconsistent in how the talk about Black fighters. Even when Loma was fighting Teo … “aw man he’s downloading and processing. Loma is sending that information from those punches to the bank. He’s faxing that right hand info to his trainer and he’s going to make the adjustment! We’re 6 rounds in and he’s thrown 10 punches and only gotten hit by 60, but he’s winning this fight with his composure and downloading and processing.”

FACTS!

 

[alpo]

They do shyt on Wilder, all the time and have been for years. The same fans that hated Floyd, hate Wilder. "Oh Wilder sucks he just has a right hand. He cant box. He's trash! He needs to fire Mark Breland and learn how to box. Nobody wants to see someone just throw wild punches. He's a dumb bama. All he has is POWER"

Then when you mention Floyd "oh he's boring. So what he beat Canelo and walked him down?! Floyd was punching and running ... Canelo was 15 yrs old! Nobody wants to see a snooze fest. He has NO POWER."

Floyd and Wilder are polar opposites, and they hate both. Racist fans moving the goal posts is a constant theme in boxing discussions online.

FACTS!!

 

[NormanConnors]

i liked this but i disagree with the bolded, they're both talented. Haney a year and a half younger than shakur, a year and a half ago shakur was putting on pillow fight 12 rounders with Joet whom career probably is in jeopardy after that beating he took last week. These fighters are young and will get better over time. Both of them are special talents.

That will be an excellent fight/more than Shakur and Tank imo

 

[Megadeus]

Punch for punch I think Berchelt hits harder than Shakur and Valdez handled his power well. Shakur isn't gonna have a massive speed advantage on Valdez either. Shakur showed me he can put combinations together and all that, but Shakur has no power man. He beat Herring up, but he didn't never had him close to getting stopped, just taking punishment. I'm telling you just like I told you before the Valdez-Berchelt fight Valdez was gonna win, don't be suprised if when they fight that shyt ends in a draw or some shyt.

No power?

Thats inaccurate and unfair imo.

He may not have Tank Davis smack your head off your shoulders type power, but youre outta your mind if you think he doesnt have something on those punches.

No one's walking through those sharp ass combos. He has more than enough power to keep you from executing like you want to once you get hit. And i just rewatched the fight there were a handful of times where personally I didnt think Herring would make it through the round.

 

[Grizzly]

 

[patscorpio]

 

[Megadeus]

Yeah, if true they are protecting that man. Id rather see Shakur fight Valdez first and unify before he moves up.. A Loma fight would be big though... that is granted Loma actually agrees to it.