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WTF happen after 96? Drew and curtis carried the Pats to that SB(Curtis 166yrds 3Td's againts the Steelers in WC game) No one on D had over 10 sacks or 5 ints on D that year. The O carried the Pats to that SB.

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Get off your god damn high horse, you are not the authority of pats knowledge. All these essay you have typed out, you have not given one ounce of credit to the opposing teams(yet everyone else is a homer).

And once again you go on about Pioli and do not mention Cassaro. Cassaro has the same fukking power Pioli had. And has had better drafts then pioli ever had.

We are going to have to agree to disagree. For me the Pats are off one game from where I expected them(the Zona loss) . For you the sky is falling and only you know what is wrong.

You need to get off your damn high horse. I never said I was the Pats authority, in fact, I kept referring to consensus. Saying that only such and such type fans...if you want to disagree with me, argue with me legitimately. Don't get emotional. You have yet to in capacity say that anything that I have said about the Pats are wrong. You just keep trying to find a spot where I didn't mention something here and there. :rudy: I go harder for the Pats on here than anyone to the point where you've told me to let it go. Stop fronting breh.

I don't even understand what you're saying because you're so mad. Like I literally do not understand what you're getting at. Caserio DOES NOT have the same power Pioli had. Bellicheck and Pioli came in together and split the duties. they were always essentially equals. Pioli by 2002 was promoted to become Vice President of player personnel. Caserio was director of player personnel while Pioli was still here. What are you talking about?

Do you know who Floyd Reese is? He was brought in to be "senior football adviser" right after Pioli left and Caserio stayed in the same position he had when Pioli was here. You're comparing a guy like Caserio was brought up by the Pats org and used to evaluate skills positions and shyt to a guy like Pioli who Bellicheck had coached with since 92? Who had been a director of player personnel without Bellicheck and across multiple Parcells/Bellicheck teams?

To a guy who was the most sought after GM in 2005? You can't be serious. We'll agree to disagree, but don't try to throw that egotistical ish on me. I've been saying the same thing sine the old site in 09. It's not revelation that I would say this.
 

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You need to get off your damn high horse. I never said I was the Pats authority, in fact, I kept referring to consensus. Saying that only such and such type fans...if you want to disagree with me, argue with me legitimately. Don't get emotional. You have yet to in capacity say that anything that I have said about the Pats are wrong. You just keep trying to find a spot where I didn't mention something here and there. :rudy: I go harder for the Pats on here than anyone to the point where you've told me to let it go. Stop fronting breh.

I don't even understand what you're saying because you're so mad. Like I literally do not understand what you're getting at. Caserio DOES NOT have the same power Pioli had. Bellicheck and Pioli came in together and split the duties. they were always essentially equals. Pioli by 2002 was promoted to become Vice President of player personnel. Caserio was director of player personnel while Pioli was still here. What are you talking about?

Do you know who Floyd Reese is? He was brought in to be "senior football adviser" right after Pioli left and Caserio stayed in the same position he had when Pioli was here. You're comparing a guy like Caserio was brought up by the Pats org and used to evaluate skills positions and shyt to a guy like Pioli who Bellicheck had coached with since 92? Who had been a director of player personnel without Bellicheck and across multiple Parcells/Bellicheck teams?

To a guy who was the most sought after GM in 2005? You can't be serious. We'll agree to disagree, but don't try to throw that egotistical ish on me. I've been saying the same thing sine the old site in 09. It's not revelation that I would say this.

I disagree very much with this post. and yes I know who Reese is, I disagree with you about Pioli vis a vie Caserio. But whatever, this is going nowhere. I respect your opinion Bar, I just disagree with somethings.

And even tho we disagree on many things. We can agree Belchick and the Pats org as a whole, cannot draft DB's or Wr to save their lives...
 

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A few facts:

Nick Caserio has Pioli's job.

Bill has had his entire coaching staff pilfered since his success and has been simultaneously coaching coaches and players.

Disregarding the patriot's taking talented players that slid is asinine since most other teams had a shot at them and chkse not to take them. Credit is deserved for taking the risk when others wouldnt or before they could.

Bill is not perfect and not every Pats fan thinks he is.

I dont think anyone can understand why our secondary is so awful and why weve had such bad luck at CB.
 
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You need to decide which subject you want to be on. In one post you're talking about entitled fans and now you're back on Belli vs. Francona.
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Why don't you back and read what the convo without all the emotion. :beli:

You questioned why fans in the same area would shyt on Francona yet not Beli to which I responded: Beli wins. You then acted like those wins were meaningless in this comparison of Francona and Beli , to which I said you're spoiled since you're diminishing Beli's performance over the last few years. He's been markedly more successful than Francona over that period.

Like I said, go to sleep.
 

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So many smilies to use here. I guess the first would be :umad:

Maybe :takedat:

Definitely :smugdraper:

I wasn't sure how we'd do in this game. My initial thoughts were that the offense wouldn't be able to provide the support our defense would need to hold on to the W.

Glad to say I was wrong. Our defense showed that they're the real deal, putting it beyond all reasonable doubt after today. Our offense didn't even have a good showing from Lynch and actually won the game for us. Wilson silenced his doubters, at least for the moment, and more importantly, showed that he can shoulder the load if needed.

Great win for the Hawks. They definitely made a statement today.
 

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These damn Patriots! I lost 400 coli cash betting on their monkey asses! They got beat by the Seahawks!? B*tches!

funny thing is i hate these faggits but every time i bet Coli cash on them this year they have lost :laff: it's bittersweet these nikkas are supposed to be gettin me CC :damn:
 

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Why don't you back and read what the convo without all the emotion. :beli:

You questioned why fans in the same area would shyt on Francona yet not Beli to which I responded: Beli wins. You then acted like those wins were meaningless in this comparison of Francona and Beli , to which I said you're spoiled since you're diminishing Beli's performance over the last few years. He's been markedly more successful than Francona over that period.

Like I said, go to sleep.

All right breh, go take a nap. Bellicheck over that same time period had not been more successful. Francona had won a championship more recently and then had two straight playoff losses and then missed the playoffs one year prior to the collapse. During that same period Bellicheck lost in the championship game, missed the playoffs, and then had two 1 and dones. Stop. I thought that was obvious enough. :beli:
 
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All right breh, go take a nap. Bellicheck over that same time period had not been more successful. Francona had won a championship more recently and then had two straight playoff losses and then missed the playoffs one year prior to the collapse. During that same period Bellicheck lost in the championship game, missed the playoffs, and then had two 1 and dones. Stop. I thought that was obvious enough. :beli:

One ended last season out of the playoffs following a historical late season collapse, the other ended last season minutes away from a championship win, yet you can't see why they were treated differently in the eyes of the fans. :mindblown:

Stay stuck on stupid, then.
 

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Cot Damn I was at the game but I missed this hit cause I was out getting drinks.

 
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