1 BTC = $8.2k, it’s up 735% this yr UPDATE 5/19: BTC @ $42k :damn:

Reece

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Seven Lies Bitcoin Fans Tell Themselves (And Anyone Else Who Will Listen)
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Jason Bloomberg, CONTRIBUTOR
Dec 9, 2017 11:00 AM 438,788
The recent extraordinary runup and commensurate volatility in the price of Bitcoin has intensified global attention on the cybercurrency. For good or ill, Bitcoin is now a topic of interest to the mainstream press, as Bitcoin newbies near and far take notice.

Such newbies and reporters alike have nowhere to turn for information on Bitcoin than the established cadre of Bitcoin fans (some would say fanatics) who helped to drive its price to the stratosphere in the first place.





Just one problem: many of these fans are spouting misinformation – and worse, they believe their own nonsense.

For you fanatics (you know who you are) as well as the broader newbie audience suddenly interested in Bitcoin, here are some of the lies Bitcoin fans tell themselves – and how to avoid getting snookered yourself.

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Bitcoin: Not What It Appears?






Lie #1: Bitcoin is Like Something Else

This fallacy is so prevalent, frankly, because Bitcoin really isn’t much like anything else. There are some similarities between Bitcoin and, say, the US dollar or gold or even tulips, but the differences far outweigh the similarities.

Drawing a false comparison between dissimilar things is an example of the false analogy, false comparison, or false equivalence fallacy, and there’s even a Wikipedia page that explains it.





Here is a common example: when I say that criminals use Bitcoin for illicit transactions, a common response is ‘well, criminals use US currency for illicit transactions as well, so you shouldn’t single out Bitcoin.’ This line of reasoning is fallacious, because Bitcoin and US currency are too dissimilar to draw such a conclusion.

Lie #2: Bitcoin is Secure

Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency and ‘crypto’ means secure, right? Not so fast. Bitcoin has proven appallingly easy to steal, and even easier to lose.

Security, after all, is like a game of whack-a-mole. Hit one vulnerability on the head and another pops up. There are still far too many moles all too happy to stick their heads through holes in the Bitcoin threat surface for my liking.

Lie #3: Bitcoin is Money

Take a $20 bill and put it under your mattress. Wait ten years and retrieve it. What is it worth? $20, of course. Sure, inflation will have likely reduced its value somewhat, but $20 will always be $20. Such is the nature of money.





Not so with Bitcoin. It’s more of a commodity that acts as a speculative vehicle, while exhibiting few of the properties of money.

At this point, Bitcoin fans are likely to point to the handful of merchants around the globe who accept Bitcoin as though it were money. My response: refer to Lie #1. The differences between Bitcoin and money far outweigh the similarities, so any equivalence is a false one.

Lie #4: Bitcoin has Intrinsic Value Outside of its Minability

I analyzed the question of Bitcoin’s intrinsic value in a previous article, concluding that its only intrinsic value (that is, value outside of its market value) is due to the fact that people have to mine it.

From the crickets I heard in response to that article, I surmised that people either didn’t understand my argument or didn’t want to believe it. So here’s a simple way of explaining this point.

Figures vary widely due to shifting hardware and electricity costs as well as economies of scale, but the cost of mining one Bitcoin is somewhere in the neighborhood of $800 to $1,500. Furthermore, all the Bitcoins now or in the future exist because someone mined them.





So when you buy a Bitcoin from a miner, you are essentially paying them to mine it – and it’s only worth the trouble for them if you’ll pay them more than it cost them.

Now, let’s say you want to sell that Bitcoin. Your asking price is what someone is willing to pay, which is what we call the market value. But even if no one wanted to buy your Bitcoin, it would still cost the original miner so much to mine it. That’s its intrinsic value.

Note that mining Bitcoin is very different from mining gold, say. Gold’s intrinsic value goes well beyond its minability, as it is desirable for many other reasons outside of its market value. Comparing Bitcoin mining to gold mining is, you guessed it, an example of Lie #1.

Lie #5: Bitcoin is Not in a Bubble

A Bitcoin’s intrinsic value is around $1,000 while its market value bounces around between $15,000 and $20,000 (or some other crazy number depending on when you’re reading this). The difference is pure speculation – one fool’s bet that a greater fool will be willing to buy that Bitcoin for more than the first fool paid for it.

Every move to the upside is more evidence of the bubble. Every profit-taking dip to the downside is yet more evidence there’s a bubble. Comparing the Bitcoin bubble to the dot-com bubble or the tulip bubble to draw conclusions about the behavior of bubbles is – once more – an example of Lie #1.





Lie #6: You’ve Made Money on the Bitcoin You’re Holding

Never lose sight of the difference between ‘paper profits’ and realprofits. You have to sell your Bitcoin to get real money in order to realize a profit.

If Bitcoin were money itself then perhaps this wouldn’t be the case. Refer to Lie #3 in case you’re unclear on this point.

The more people decide to take their profits, the lower the price will drop. Since Bitcoin is in a bubble, it’s only a matter of time until its market value resets to a number closer to its intrinsic value. Unless, of course, you believe Lie #5.

Lie #7: I’m Full of Crap.

Not just me, of course, but any Bitcoin naysayer. Rest assured, whenever I poke my stick at Bitcoin, I get my share of flamers – people with no better argument than a personal attack on myself.

Such reasoning is itself fallacious, of course. It’s known as an ad hominem attack, and this fallacy also has its own Wikipedia page.





You might think I’d be upset with such ad hominem attacks. In reality, I welcome them, so bring them on.

The reason is simple: people mount ad hominem attacks because they have no better argument. Every time I get a flame, I say to myself, ‘here’s someone who cares deeply about their own point of view, but could not come up with a single non-fallacious argument to justify their perspective.’

In other words, they’re lying to themselves. Are you?

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Translation: I’m mad I aint get in early and gotta still write these articles :sadbron:
 

The Radiant One

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Thanks breh. I’ll wait. I was just trying to buy but Coinbase kept erroring out :blessed:
Go to gdax in the exchange and but a sell order for 200 so it will automatically buy when ltc hits 200.

Brehs I would invest more in ltc and Etherum I think it is more likely for this to hit 1k than bitcoin to continue to hurt 50k
 

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I bought 32 LTC at $32 and its the best choice I ever made. The run these past weeks :banderas:
I aint cashin out until it's at least in the $1500-2000 range.
#bigwalletgang he gets it.
I bought $20 worth of ltc when it was at 101
And $20 worth of btc at 15k

I got $74 now I already feel like I'm rich lol
Get the binance app. There are companies coins you buy for pennies on the dollar, but you need to use bitcoin or ether to fund the app.


All I see about this bitcoin phenomenon is how people are investing in the various crypto currencies but who here has actually converted their bitcoins/bits of various cryptos to cash when the exchange rate goes up?

I haven't seen anyone post or do this yet. Are there any bitcoins to cash ATM machines out here in the streets or do you have to do it only with your bank account using your portfolio/wallet?

Can anyone please help me with this info cos I am interested in this, bitcoin reminds me of when bittorrent was popping back in the day and only the underground nerds understood all that peer to peer shyt.

Why pullout when it feels good to leave in :noah:this is the new money breh get used to it. We got atms and people take payments with bitcoin.

@JordanWearinThe45 edit your post so nikkas know what to do :damn: you missing out big time brother. Thinking all the lurkers sitting there :lupe: because they don' Know how to sign up.
If you don't want to use yours use mine :mjgrin:
 

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Iota is one of the coins I was talking about that is more than likely a scam.

Block chain isn’t even used for anything useful yet they claim to have the foothold on the IoT market using a different protocol which is itself in its infancy. Maybe. Highly unlikely

Have no patience brehs

You’ve would’ve sold your Bitcoin in 2012 and been finding the nearest bridge to hop off in 2017
 

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Have no patience brehs

You’ve would’ve sold your Bitcoin in 2012 and been finding the nearest bridge to hop off in 2017

The difference is that its never been more unstable than it is now with every Joe Schmoe trying to get in. It's a topple waiting to happen at this point
 

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How do u link ur coinbase to paypal...i dont see an option for it in my acct

If you go to the Coinbase website, go to the top where you can buy/sell, go to sell, there's a drop down button for deposits, you can add an account there, paypal is one of the options(their fee is highish, like 2.5%)
 
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On the real it might not drop anytime soon...maybe for a minute or two like it did around 3am but if you don't get in now you would of missed out on a low.

Ltc projected to hit 1k by the end of the week. Companies like overstock.com announced they use it as a payment and such.
 
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