[08/25] AEW Dynamite: Where the action is LIVE

[Bryan Danielson]

Dude its a forum. Theres going to be bad shows. We gonna talk about it. Nothing wrong with people expressing where the company comes up short

Oh course there are.

But first point dude on this forum people tend to too much exaggerate and reach.

Either something is GREAT or something SUCKS

it’s like there is no in between or nuance.

 

[Oville]

Oh course there are.

But first point dude on this forum people tend to too much exaggerate and reach.

Either something is GREAT or something SUCKS

it’s like there is no in between or nuance.

No doubt theres legit wwe trolls. If u see my critiques tho its really about them nkt utilizing their own resources enough. They need to promote what goes on in Dark and Elevation more. Especially if wins and losses are going to matter and thats where a lot of these people are racking up their wins. Their also inconsistent with showcasing wins and losses and rankings on Dynamite. I feel more invested in some of the talent that made their names on Dark and Elevation when they hit the main roster. This alone should be an easy fix for them

 

[Jello Biafra]

They really should have taken the time to show that Giannis was in the building last night.

 

[Rollie Forbes]

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[Rollie Forbes]

Also everyone in here at this point isn’t a casual….. why the fukk do some of y’all worry bout the “casuals” so much. They CASUALS don’t watch any company on a weekly basis.

Every company needs to stick to catering to their base

By that logic, we'd never see Coca-Cola, Ford, McDonald's, or Apple commercials. Every company needs to expand their market share. In business, you can't just "cater to your base", especially if your goal is to raise a profit, or if you have to answer to shareholders.
Wrestling companies expand by getting casuals & new viewers interested in their product. It's exactly why TK made such a big deal about an NBA game lead-in last season. He was hoping that many of those basketball fans would become AEW fans (unfortunately, a lot of those fans just clowned fat Jericho on social media).
Appeasing the casuals is the reason AEW keeps bringing in old WWE guys. "The base" is fine watching the Elite do their schtick every week. To attract new viewers, guys like Mile Tyson, Shaq, The Big Show, Y2J, Mark Henry, Snoop Dogg, Sting, Christian, Bryan Danielson, Arn Anderson, Jake The Snake, and CM Punk, whom casuals would be familiar with, need to be added (side note, that name recognition is also the reason that Dana White featured CM Punk, even though he wasn't a good fighter).
Attracting casuals is a part of the wrestling business. Paul E. did it, Bill Watts did it, Vince does it, and Tony Khan is trying to do it.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

No doubt theres legit wwe trolls. If u see my critiques tho its really about them nkt utilizing their own resources enough. They need to promote what goes on in Dark and Elevation more. Especially if wins and losses are going to matter and thats where a lot of these people are racking up their wins. Their also inconsistent with showcasing wins and losses and rankings on Dynamite. I feel more invested in some of the talent that made their names on Dark and Elevation when they hit the main roster. This alone should be an easy fix for them

I think that is fair, but all that is kind of new to a degree and it’s ok to let them find their way…. Especially with them jump coming out of a pandemic which like every company out there forced everyone to really re evaluate how they function.

I think with shyt slowly hopefully getting back together it’s fair to allow not just them but every company to get their footing.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

By that logic, we'd never see Coca-Cola, Ford, McDonald's, or Apple commercials. Every company needs to expand their market share. In business, you can't just "cater to your base", especially if your goal is to raise a profit, or if you have to answer to shareholders.
Wrestling companies expand by getting casuals & new viewers interested in their product. It's exactly why TK made such a big deal about an NBA game lead-in last season. He was hoping that many of those basketball fans would become AEW fans (unfortunately, a lot of those fans just clowned fat Jericho on social media).
Appeasing the casuals is the reason AEW keeps bringing in old WWE guys. "The base" is fine watching the Elite do their schtick every week. To attract new viewers, guys like Mile Tyson, Shaq, The Big Show, Y2J, Mark Henry, Snoop Dogg, Sting, Christian, Bryan Danielson, Arn Anderson, Jake The Snake, and CM Punk, whom casuals would be familiar with, need to be added (side note, that name recognition is also the reason that Dana White featured CM Punk, even though he wasn't a good fighter).
Attracting casuals is a part of the wrestling business. Paul E. did it, Bill Watts did it, Vince does it, and Tony Khan is trying to do it.

So you not wrong with the bold…. But the advantage all them have over AEW is they have the advantage of time. They been around for 100 years or at minimum 50. So they’ve grown to a point where they can do that


Apple being the youngest is probably the best example AEW should follow.

Back in the 80, Apple wasn’t popping like that. Hell my first time even really even becoming aware of we when I went to college in the late 90s and based off my Degree as a designer (Aggie Pride). My department was the only place in campus that had Apple computers and I had friends with similar degrees in lesser schools that was doing it on PCs.

In the 90s….. when they dropped the iPods and iPhones was when they really exploded and that was YEARS later.

This company been around 2 or 3 years now, they got room and time to grow organically

 

[RammerJammer]

I would imagine MJF goes over Jericho at All Out and Jericho goes and does commentary. Jericho was in AEW to put them on the map but there’s no use for him now

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Also WWE is still the biggest company in the US and casuals don’t even watch their shows every week at all, and that’s any of their shows from Raw to 205

They just have a GIANT BASE that they established over the 100+ years of their existence.

Casuals are the people that come to mainly their big PPVs like Wrestlemainia and SummerSlam. Casuals ain’t going to house shows or weekly shows like that

If they was really getting casuals like that all time then instead of Raw, Smackdown, and NXT being in small college/nba arenas. Every show would be in a large college football stadium.

Casual buy John Cena/Ronda Rousey shirts, the base buys a KO/Nikki Ash shirts

Satisfy the base first, make enough of them make your product look like it’s cool. The casuals will come

 

[Rollie Forbes]

So you not wrong with the bold…. But the advantage all them have over AEW is they have the advantage of time. They been around for 100 years or at minimum 50. So they’ve grown to a point where they can do that


Apple being the youngest is probably the best example AEW should follow.

Back in the 80, Apple wasn’t popping like that. Hell my first time even really even becoming aware of we when I went to college in the late 90s and based off my Degree as a designer (Aggie Pride). My department was the only place in campus that had Apple computers and I had friends with similar degrees in lesser schools that was doing it on PCs.

In the 90s….. when they dropped the iPods and iPhones was when they really exploded and that was YEARS later.

This company been around 2 or 3 years now, they got room and time to grow organically

You could've stopped right there.
You're absolutely correct, older companies are still trying to increase market share.
AEW is only 2 years old. Do you still think Tony Khan doesn't need to attract new viewers?

 

[Brad Piff]

Gotta love it when the marks go into panic mode after a trash show

 

[drifter]

Dude its a forum. Theres going to be bad shows. We gonna talk about it. Nothing wrong with people expressing where the company comes up short

Like what is he even talking about lol, as if nikkas are supposed to bust out a Merriam-Webster and brush up on vernacular before giving their 2 cents

There wouldn't be these hoops & hurdles if people said RAW/SD sucked this week but now you have to watch what you say. Then now you gotta sit and rank 1998 episodes of WCW & ECW before talking about 2021 AEW too

Bad shows happen and are a guaranteed if you're running multiple cards a week there's no need to be so sensitive

 

[Wacky D]

Also everyone in here at this point isn’t a casual….. why the fukk do some of y’all worry bout the “casuals” so much. They CASUALS don’t watch any company on a weekly basis.

Every company needs to stick to catering to their base

THIS.

When companies cater to the casuals, they lose their spark. Plus, the same people wanting them to cater to casuals, will be the 1st ones to refer to a company as WWE-lite when they do such.

 

[RammerJammer]

Gotta love it when the marks go into panic mode after a trash show

I’m a fan of both WWE and AEW and even I’ll admit that it wasn’t a good show outside of the opener & Punk

But there are more good episodes of Dynamite than bad, can’t say the same for Raw/SmackDown

 

[Rollie Forbes]

Also WWE is still the biggest company in the US and casuals don’t even watch their shows every week at all, and that’s any of their shows from Raw to 205

They just have a GIANT BASE that they established over the 100+ years of their existence.

Casuals are the people that come to mainly their big PPVs like Wrestlemainia and SummerSlam. Casuals ain’t going to house shows or weekly shows like that

If they was really getting casuals like that all time then instead of Raw, Smackdown, and NXT being in small college/nba arenas. Every show would be in a large college football stadium.

Casual buy John Cena/Ronda Rousey shirts, the base buys a KO/Nikki Ash shirts

Satisfy the base first, make enough of them make your product look like it’s cool. The casuals will come

2 things:
1. @ me. I want to see your reply.
2. That's not the way business works, BD. You ALWAYS make a concerted effort to expand your base. That's why as soon as Vince took WWWF from his father, he started eating up the territories. If he had just sat back and waited for new eyes, WWE would never have grown to its current size.