06/01/24 DAZN PPV: Deontay Wilder vs Zhilei Zhang (Matchroom vs Queensbury 5vs5)/Dmitrii Bivol vs Malik Zinad (WBA World Light Heavyweight Title)

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u mad son?

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I keep seeing people talk about "the old wilder" and how all he needed to do is "let the right go"

U man's still don't understand. It's the same fukking Wilder we all know and love, it's just that he's been found out by real boxers who get the game.

He's not fighting no name American bums no more g.
 

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Hopefully his excellency can get Arum and Haymon fully on board.

Hearn and Warren have basically stolen a lot of spotlight from other promoters by putting aside beef and giving the fans what they want to see.

It can happen in an environment where there is good guaranteed money, like the Sauds bring, or if you are in an oppressive environment like the UFC where you fight for peanuts.

I prefer that fighters get their monetary due for putting their lives on the line.

fukk the politics, fukk the ducking. Fight the best and test yourself. If you fail, at least you should have the cash to be comfortable and then you choose if you want to step away or not.
Can you imagine Haymon doing all these lead-up, hype building content what Hearn and Warren did though?
He must have a phobia of appearing on film or even photo, he’s secretive to a point that it’s likely got more to it than simply being introverted. He would have to appoimt someone as “the face” of PBC first.
But there are rumors he’s been MIA for a while now and that Luis de Cubas and Tom Brown are running the show now. Can’t tell if it’s true because the guy who started the rumour is a well-known hater of PBC.
 

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I keep seeing people talk about "the old wilder" and how all he needed to do is "let the right go"

U man's still don't understand. It's the same fukking Wilder we all know and love, it's just that he's been found out by real boxers who get the game.

He's not fighting no name American bums no more g.
Bro in this thread going crazy with the anti-american hatred lol. Must be one of those weirdo UK/London guys
 

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Brick Top is appropriate too.

His lack of skill was always glaring but he could’ve lasted a lot longer and took a lot less damage if he didn’t surround himself with yes men his entire career.

Al Haymon also would’ve protected him a lot better during these twilight years instead of getting him punished.
Breland wasn't a Yes man and look what happened to him.

Al would've protected him
He did more with Kate Abdo :damn:
You ain't wrong. Seeing her on the pads Vs Wilder is night and day

:pachaha:
 

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in his prime its just a 50/50 punchers chance.(vs parker,zhang,aj...etc) thats all wilder ever had. truly a gifted helluva right hand.

in HW its always like that anyway. Power means so much in HW division.

only time wilder ever boxed a bit was vs his first title fight vs stiverne. he never tried to build on that. he just fell in love with his power and eventually fired mark breland after first fury fight. its been downhill ever since.
 

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I keep seeing people talk about "the old wilder" and how all he needed to do is "let the right go"

U man's still don't understand. It's the same fukking Wilder we all know and love, it's just that he's been found out by real boxers who get the game.

He's not fighting no name American bums no more g.
A lot of this is mental for Wilder.

To say he didn't have thunder in those hands would be a lie.

Easily the one heavyweight with guaranteed one punch knockout power.

His success is predicated on absolute confidence in that weapon. Fury broke that confidence. After that Wilder made bad choices, blaming his trainer instead of himself.

AJ lost to Ruiz and to Uysk and looked really poor and gunshy, when he got together with Davison his confidence came back and he once again looks like a champ.

Wilder never got his confidence back.
 

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A lot of this is mental for Wilder.

To say he didn't have thunder in those hands would be a lie.

Easily the one heavyweight with guaranteed one punch knockout power.

His success is predicated on absolute confidence in that weapon. Fury broke that confidence. After that Wilder made bad choices, blaming his trainer instead of himself.

AJ lost to Ruiz and to Uysk and looked really poor and gunshy, when he got together with Davison his confidence came back and he once again looks like a champ.

Wilder never got his confidence back.
The problem is, when you've been found out in one way, you have enough game and knowledge to switch ur tactics and style up to win the next few. We saw this with AJ, that's why my respect for him is up there with the best.

Wilder was always a one trick poney so once that one trick is gone and u have no game, it's over for you.

He could have got his confidence back in a few more of his usual bum of the week fights but he decided to go again vs real competition and got sparked. Which would have happened anyway.

You can't coach a 40 year old new styles, you either had the technical ability from early or u didn't. Wilder never had it.
 

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