Zion Williamson to split with CAA with his NBA contract in doubt

[MikelArteta]

There is absolutely nothing in the world that can make Joel or Zion love the game.

And if we're being honest for ourselves for a minute here that's how it is to most people with a job.

They do just enough to get paid and then it's on to the next one.

They just happen to be born into athlete's bodies and learn that that was the best way to get rich due to winning the DNA lottery.

We need to stop acting like people who are athletes or entertainers love what they do. Or want to be great.

Everyone is not

Kobe
Michael
LeBron
Brady
Manning
Mayweather
Jeter

I think there comes a point and I forgot who mentioned it in this thread there needs to be more teams who start putting stipulations on these dudes missing all these games for being out of shape.

I got no problem with the clauses put in these contracts.

You're getting 300 million least I can expect you to do is play 70 games unless you suffer a catastrophic injury.

the next generation will feel it when contracts aren't guaranteed , or people stop caring about the sport in general. Remember the nba is not even 80 years old. Giants fall

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

This is the NBA. Joel lazy ass got damn near 200 milly. He'll get that money he'll fool the next GM. He'll be under 30 as well.

Anybody under 30 with his potential will not be denied in five-year contract less than $250 million. No matter how much we think and know it's stupid as FUKK to do it. The money the NBA makes that's just the way the market is.

Again I ask with what cap space?

The majority of the league outside of a few exceptions are not going to have the cap space to offer him a max contract that he has now if they waive him in the offseason. Even if they did, they would add some of the same clauses that the Pelicans did due to his injury history.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

the next generation will feel it when contracts aren't guaranteed , or people stop caring about the sport in general. Remember the nba is not even 80 years old. Giants fall

Remember the big talk like we thought people would stop handing out contracts or the CBA would do something different?

You got YouTube, Amazon, NBC ESPN and any other streaming service begging for their product.

They're paying top dollar all the time for this no matter how much we complain piss and moan. Not to mention international money.

And you got NIL's for younger kids. Male and female. The genies out of the bottle man.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Again I ask with what cap space?

The majority of the league outside of a few exceptions are not going to have the cap space to offer him a max contract that he has now if they waive him in the offseason. Even if they did, they would add some of the same clauses that the Pelicans did due to his injury history.

I would be shocked if Zion gets signed for less than $200 million wherever he goes.

 

[MikelArteta]

I would be shocked if Zion gets signed for less than $200 million wherever he goes.

of course he will
same with ben simmons some dumb ass team is gonna give him like a 3 year 45 million dollars

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I would be shocked if Zion gets signed for less than $200 million wherever he goes.

That's not how the cap works, but okay.

Someone mentioned the Knicks, which he definitely wouldn't get $200 million from as they don't have the cap space to do it.

Keeping that same contract he has now is his best bet as there's still the opportunity to get it fully guaranteed if he just does the bare minimum that's asked of him.

 

[Doctor Doom]

The problem with that notion is that 6 years in sports is a lifetime when it comes to bad habits eating and injuries.

Yeah absolutely doesn't want to be there.

But the damage that he's done to the lack of conditioning to his body you suddenly don't flip the switch and become healthy all over again.

He's got YEARS of bad habits and laziness baked in and his body may not be ready for such a drastic change and "flipping the switch"

All of this.

You don't just get in shape like that. It needs to be a gradual work-up or you risk serious injury, and that's just some on some normal everyday civilian shyt.

It gets magnified 100x in professional sports.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

That's not how the cap works, but okay.

Someone mentioned the Knicks, which he definitely wouldn't get $200 million from as they don't have the cap space to do it.

Keeping that same contract he has now is his best bet as there's still the opportunity to get it fully guaranteed if he just does the bare minimum that's asked of him.

I just don't understand why a guy wouldn't want to maximize his conditioning and his body at such a young age with the money they're handing out.

He got in at 20 and could literally leave it like 37 years old if he kept himself in tip-top shape- he may be done by 32.

People can't even come close to comparing him to Charles Barkley. At least Barkley wised up when he was told he was fat. He was never an Adonis but he played at a very high level for a long time. This fat nikka ain't even 28 yet and is missing 50-60 games every year.

 

[DetroitEWarren]

Can you imagine this dude trying to work out with somebody like Tim Grover?

I mean SHYT man even if you don't want to be at NO you don't tank your body for over half a decade to prove a point.

He's shortening his career so anybody thinking that this is a good idea is fooling themselves.

He may end up hurting himself just attempting to get in tip top shape. Cause he hasn't targeted areas of need for his whole life.

I agree with this, however, he will have a lot less mileage on his body so if breh can whip himself into shape he won't have as much wear and tear over the next 6 years as his peers.

That might help him in the long run.

Regardless, as a fat nikka, breh is still dominant. If he ever dropped down to an actual 285 (nikka has been over 300 every season except year 2 and year 4) he can still be the best player on winning teams.

 

[Doctor Doom]

I just don't understand why a guy wouldn't want to maximize his conditioning and his body at such a young age with the money they're handing out.

He got in at 20 and could literally leave it like 37 years old if he kept himself in tip-top shape- he may be done by 32.

People can't even come close to comparing him to Charles Barkley. At least Barkley wised up when he was told he was fat. He was never an Adonis but he played at a very high level for a long time. This fat nikka ain't even 28 yet and is missing 50-60 games every year.

Just peep the first PG/DeMar podcast episode where DeMar said that there are a lot of sorry dudes in the league that don't really love basketball like that.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I just don't understand why a guy wouldn't want to maximize his conditioning and his body at such a young age with the money they're handing out.

He got in at 20 and could literally leave it like 37 years old if he kept himself in tip-top shape- he may be done by 32.

People can't even come close to comparing him to Charles Barkley. At least Barkley wised up when he was told he was fat. He was never an Adonis but he played at a very high level for a long time. This fat nikka ain't even 28 yet and is missing 50-60 games every year.

I don’t even like posters using the narrative that he didn’t want to be in NO as if a lot of these young players aren’t playing in cities where they’d rather be elsewhere.

If he’s willing to sabotage his career and now take it serious in one place, why would I want that type of person in the locker room and expect him to flip the switch elsewhere?

It’s a lot of dudes in the league that would love to have a max contract with the chance to earn it in full.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

I don’t even like posters using the narrative that he didn’t want to be in NO as if a lot of these young players aren’t playing in cities where they’d rather be elsewhere.

If he’s willing to sabotage his career and now take it serious in one place, why would I want that type of person in the locker room and expect him to flip the switch elsewhere?

It’s a lot of dudes in the league that would love to have a max contract with the chance to earn it in full.

They literally put in writing exactly what goals he had to meet to make sure he got all of his money.

He agreed to it. And his fat ass still can't meet the expectations

 

[The War Report]

Zion needs Pat Riley in his life.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

 

[The God Poster]

I just don't understand why a guy wouldn't want to maximize his conditioning and his body at such a young age with the money they're handing out.

He got in at 20 and could literally leave it like 37 years old if he kept himself in tip-top shape- he may be done by 32.

People can't even come close to comparing him to Charles Barkley. At least Barkley wised up when he was told he was fat. He was never an Adonis but he played at a very high level for a long time. This fat nikka ain't even 28 yet and is missing 50-60 games every year.

Y’all always look at sports with this weird pov. Not all athletes love what they do which is why some don’t maximize potential. It’s just like any other job where they go with the flow.