Zion Williamson Bust Watch

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You have thrown a bunch of bullshyt against the wall hoping something sticks and Zon has knocked that shyt off one criticism after another.

Its the natural hater in you. After he starts hitti g the 3 u will look for something else and walk away when u get shot down.

Lame ass nikka :scust:
You're incapable of seeing the bigger picture for whatever [dikkriding] reason, no matter how many times I keep reiterating it. I can't help you anymore - you need to help yourself.

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You're incapable of seeing the bigger picture for whatever [dikkriding] reason, no matter how many times I keep reiterating it. I can't help you anymore - you need to help yourself.

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Ain't no bigger picture bytch. All haters die lonely ass deaths, I'm content with knowing you are nothing in real life.
 

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Out of all the players Coach K has regretted not winning a title with, I GUARANTEE Zion is at the top. I told my fellow Duke fans that Coach K is going to lose years of sleep wondering wtf he did to fukk it up.

I'm still hurt by this man..I dont think I will ever get over that loss...I should've sued through Zion and had o'Connell more to open up the court
 

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As per usual, just like your lack of understanding the game, you the lack the understanding to interpret what I'm saying. I've already said: I don't think he'll be a bust, and I've reiterated I'm talking about how successful/effective he can be, and how that is dependent on him developing a jumpshot. And it's not about "chucking 3s", it's about him not being able to score from anywhere outside of the paint.

Do you realize how "fukking stupid" you sound to not acknowledge that an undersized player whose activity outside of the paint in college was near non-existent, puts a cap on their ceiling?

If Giannis was the same size as Zion, he wouldn't have the status he does now in the game, which is the entire point of using him as an example. If he is now at a perceived dead-end, what's going to be the story for someone like Zion who doesn't have even remotely the same physical advantages?

False equivalence.

Not only are 3s more valuable than 2s, but dunking and posting guys up, are alternative ways to scoring the same points that you would from layups and general jumpshots inside the arc - all of which Steph is capable of doing - he can score all over the floor. There are no alternative ways to score if you don't have a jump-shot, it's not as if Zion can jump from 20-ft out and dunk the ball. Zion can only score in one area of the floor, which is in the paint; Steph can score in every single area of the floor, even beyond the actual halfcourt.

If you're 6'6" and you're only capable of scoring inside the paint, then, of course, it stands to reason your ceiling is going to have a certain limit.

Oh look, the false equivalences just keep on coming (this is even worse considering you're using Jordan and his jumpshot as an example, as a reference point to tie to Zion, who is without a jumpshot). I'm convinced you're someone who only just started watching the game recently, especially with all this generic rhetoric about Jordan's game.

:unimpressed:

As I've pointed out to you before, because Shaq towered over everyone, he didn't need a jumpshot. If Zion was the same size as Shaq, we wouldn't even be having this discussion, but since Zion is only 6'6" with a below-average wingspan, he needs a jumpshot to exist in that stratosphere. Why are you having a hard time comprehending this?

Do you really think Shaq would be even half the player he was if he was the same size as Zion?

:usure:

Before I address this, let me ask you:

Do you believe that every team has the same defensive capabilities as the Bulls (who were without their defensive anchor), and every team for the rest of his career?
Do you believe that Zion will be playing in the same [preseason] setting for the rest of his career?
Do you believe that every team he plays won't adjust to his game for the rest of his career?

And because Giannis is taller/longer, and can cover distances in a shorter amount of time, and at a greater radius, than Zion can, is why I said he has greater physical capabilities. Just because Zion has a higher vert in relation to his height, doesn't mean the opposite. In this context, Zion isn't capable of doing the things that Giannis can do, yet Giannis can do all the things Zion is capable of doing. And you seem to think that jumping is at a constant in a game when it's not - when both players are in their neutral states, who do you think has the physical advantages?

:mjtf:

The only excuse for saying some nonsense like this is if you haven't seen Giannis play, at all.



In the above clip, Giannis covers more ground, in a shorter period of time than Zion did in the clip you provided - Giannis could replicate that same play at least nine out of 10 times, whereas Zion could perhaps do it once or twice, if he was lucky in timing his jump right.



Zion is not making these plays. And Zion sure as hell ain't making the offensive plays Giannis does either. Talk to me when Zion can gather the ball off a step behind the arc and finish at the rim. Talk to me when Zion can euro his way through traffic and finish over 7-fters. Talk to me when Zion is capable of doing shyt like this...



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nikka said Zion will never be able to make the offensive plays of Giannis (another average half court player who has no handle)
 

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But you see, the point is: folks acknowledge Giannis' limitations because he doesn't have a jumpshot. Now, what I'm trying to get you and others to understand is that, if someone of Giannis stature (where his dimensions and physical abilities allow him to do more things than Zion) is in need of a jumpshot, then why is it so hard for y'all to understand Zion does too?

Giannis will be in the HOF (as meaningless as that accolade is) without a jumpshot, but that doesn't mean Zion will be too.

This nonsense about teams needing to stop Zion from scoring in the paint before we should broach the issue of his jumpshot is reductive reasoning, not only in theory, but he's had one dominant [preseason] game against the worst defensive frontcourt in the league, yet failed to have the same type of impact against the Knicks. It's not like he's had 3-4 entire seasons, averaging 25-30+ points, where he's able to score only in the paint, in all types of settings and scenarios.

Also, curious to know why you think he has a jumper, when there's absolutely no evidence that even suggests so?
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nikka said Zion will never be able to make the offensive plays of Giannis (another average half court player who has no handle)
If you bothered to actually read properly (another thing you're incapable of doing), I was speaking about Giannis' physical dimensions, and how he's capable of doing things that Zion physically can't do. If you ever get to see Giannis live, you'll know what I mean.

Why are you constantly embarrassing yourself? Nobody wants to keep reading this shyt.
Laughing at yourself again for not understanding the context of the argument I take it?
 
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All this dude does is make wrong predictions .. why y’all even say anything to this lame
Oh, look, more dumbasses who are too ignorant to comprehend what's going on.

Zion hasn't even played an official game in his NBA career, and we've got muh'fukkas talking about predictions being wrong, as if there isn't decades of historical evidence of players of a certain height needing a jumpshot. It's quite literally the nature of the game. But somehow, y'all seem to think that making an observation of what exists is making a prediction.

It's like y'all just post shyt for the sake of: just mindless fukking nothing.
 
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