ZION DUKE DEBUT 29 POINTS 13 REBOUNDS

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@*~bigg~vvvave~* and I tried to tell y'all nxggas back in 2018 that it was inevitable that Zion's body would fail him if he didn't lose weight.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

If he doesn't lose weight, he won't last in the league.

Y’all said the same shyt before he went to college


And he was slimmer in HS and was doing the same shyt.

All that wear and tear at his weight will catch up to him eventually if he doesn't cut down. It will be inevitable.

Yall just assuming shyt though. He's very coordinated for his size and has excellent body control. What about him or his game make you think his size is a serious concern?. I could see if dude played reckless like Westbrook or exerted too much force in his cuts like a prime d-rose. But dude seems graceful in his movements

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

All that wear and tear at his weight will catch up to him eventually if he doesn't cut down. It will be inevitable.

It's sad that nikkas are tryna talk injuries on lil bruh.

Yall acting like this nikka just fat. This nikka is cut! This dude is a Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders, Jordan, LeBron type of athlete. The same rules don't apply to him.

Clown ass nikkas talkin about injuries and bully ball when Zion dropped

- 28 pts in 22 minutes
- on Kentucky of all teams
-in his very first college game

its hilarious they only way they woudl know if they are specifically injury prone is if they did a full in and out examination of said player.
look at brons size *pause* he has yet to have a muscular/ligament injury. some peopel got it some people dont. and ultimately it comes down to how these players are taking care of them self outside of the 48 minutes. bron said he spends millions a year taking care of himself. and im sure duke has the facilities to take care of him until he gets to the league.

frmo the espn+ docuseries so far Zion seems like he has his head on right and is focused on himself and his craft so wait and see

yall are strange trying to talk injury onto these KIDS!

It's less "doom and gloom" and more being realistic. There's a reason why all big men in the league have been cutting down over recent years to keep in tune with the pace and space game. Of course, no body type is immune to injury, but all the actions that are frequent in today's game, and the injury risk they carry are compounded by the weight you carry, especially when knee injuries are more prevalent than ever, and that joint/ligaments bear the majority of your body's weight. Since "coli doctors" don't know what they're talking about, perhaps you'll find advice from NBA trainers/coaches more palatable:

"Mahinmi was given the all-clear to slim down in July, but started with lighter weights to take it easy on his knees. Losing weight also reduced the extra physical stress on his ligaments and joints when he ran, jumped, or landed.

“Someone like Nurkic—if he stays at a good weight, and he’s not fluctuating, he could add four, five years to his career,” Barto says. “He’s already had one injury,” he says, referring to the Blazers center’s broken right leg last March, “and the more weight you hold, the more you're banging your joints, and the more injury prone you're going to be.”

Players are now looking for ways to help them last—not just over the long haul of their career but over the course of a grueling 82-game season.
On Zion -

Finally, we touched base with an NBA assistant coach, who spoke off the record because he is not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

"If you're playing 82 games at that weight, running up and down the floor, that's bad for his joints and it'll take a toll on him. I think he's going to struggle with a lot of things. If it were me, I wouldn't play over 260-to-265 pounds if I was 6-foot-7. In today's game, with every team getting out in transition, with more possessions than ever before, it's concerning if a guy is carrying that much weight.""

Never caught up to Barkley though and he was fat not muscle

The game is different today - more running/covering distance, more jumping and moving at weird angles, more stress on your joints/ligaments etc. Not to mention, Zion is a lot more reckless with his body than Chuck ever was.

And yes, Chuck did battle with multiple lower body injuries throughout his career - I mean shyt, his career ended because he ruptured a tendon in his knee.

And yet another surgery to his wheels.



I hate to say I told y'all so.....

 

[Dwight Howard]

And yet another surgery to his wheels.



I hate to say I told y'all so.....

You wasted your time with this. Where has it been indicated that Zion broke his foot due to weight? Nowhere. You're a coward and full of shyt

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You wasted your time with this. Where has it been indicated that Zion broke his foot due to weight? You're a coward and full of shyt

As if I haven't stated it enough. You have the most befitting username on this board.

 

[Dwight Howard]

As if I haven't stated it enough. You have the most befitting username on this board.

Where has it been stated that he broke his foot due to his weight?


You're gonna keep deflecting because you know you're full of shyt. There has been nothing disclosed as to how zion suffered his injury. KD broke the same bone and not one person would blame his weight. So yea, provide a source or stfu and keep it moving

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Where has it been stated that he broke his foot due to his weight?


You're gonna keep deflecting because you know you're full of shyt. There has been nothing disclosed as to how zion suffered his injury. KD broke the same bone and not one person would blame his weight. So yea, provide a source or stfu and keep it moving

Do you really think the Pelicans are going to come out and release a detailed statement that Zion's injuries to his wheels have been an accumulation and compounded by the weight he's been playing at, inadvertently shooting themselves in the proverbial foot for playing him at that weight for the last two seasons?



The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong with you.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@Dwight Howard

After his first two seasons in the league, Zion has had three notable injuries to his lower limbs (including multiple surgeries) that have resulted in him missing time and a limited workload. After KD's first two seasons he had ZERO injuries to his wheels; he didn't suffer a notable lower limb injury until 2014 (Jones fracture in foot) which was seven years into his career.

Seven years.

And you're gonna sit there and peddle this bullshyt that KD's first significant injury after seven years in the league is somehow comparable to Zion who's already had multiple injuries/surgeries after TWO seasons.

Respectfully, kill yourself.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Bu-bu-but his injuries have nothing to do with his weight because the Pelicans haven't said so.

 

[Bigblackted4]

He broke that bone due to bounce

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Back in 2018 -

All that wear and tear at his weight will catch up to him eventually if he doesn't cut down. It will be inevitable.

bu-bu-but your whole argument. @gtj1982

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

That's right, run along @gtj1982.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

If he doesn't lose weight, he won't last in the league.

All that wear and tear at his weight will catch up to him eventually if he doesn't cut down. It will be inevitable.

All these doom and gloom injury predictions for these athletic players (they’re doing the same thing in that Mac Mcclung thread) as if we’ve never seen any 180 pound injury prone jump shooters. Annoying...

There is no body type or skill set that is immune from injuries. Everyone gets hurt...

Clown ass nikkas talkin about injuries and bully ball when Zion dropped

- 28 pts in 22 minutes
- on Kentucky of all teams
-in his very first college game

It's sad that nikkas are tryna talk injuries on lil bruh.

Yall acting like this nikka just fat. This nikka is cut! This dude is a Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders, Jordan, LeBron type of athlete. The same rules don't apply to him.

its hilarious they only way they woudl know if they are specifically injury prone is if they did a full in and out examination of said player.
look at brons size *pause* he has yet to have a muscular/ligament injury. some peopel got it some people dont. and ultimately it comes down to how these players are taking care of them self outside of the 48 minutes. bron said he spends millions a year taking care of himself. and im sure duke has the facilities to take care of him until he gets to the league.

frmo the espn+ docuseries so far Zion seems like he has his head on right and is focused on himself and his craft so wait and see

yall are strange trying to talk injury onto these KIDS!

It's less "doom and gloom" and more being realistic. There's a reason why all big men in the league have been cutting down over recent years to keep in tune with the pace and space game. Of course, no body type is immune to injury, but all the actions that are frequent in today's game, and the injury risk they carry are compounded by the weight you carry, especially when knee injuries are more prevalent than ever, and that joint/ligaments bear the majority of your body's weight. Since "coli doctors" don't know what they're talking about, perhaps you'll find advice from NBA trainers/coaches more palatable:

Mahinmi was given the all-clear to slim down in July, but started with lighter weights to take it easy on his knees. Losing weight also reduced the extra physical stress on his ligaments and joints when he ran, jumped, or landed.

“Someone like Nurkic—if he stays at a good weight, and he’s not fluctuating, he could add four, five years to his career,” Barto says. “He’s already had one injury,” he says, referring to the Blazers center’s broken right leg last March, “and the more weight you hold, the more you're banging your joints, and the more injury prone you're going to be.”

Players are now looking for ways to help them last—not just over the long haul of their career but over the course of a grueling 82-game season.
On Zion -

Finally, we touched base with an NBA assistant coach, who spoke off the record because he is not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

"If you're playing 82 games at that weight, running up and down the floor, that's bad for his joints and it'll take a toll on him. I think he's going to struggle with a lot of things. If it were me, I wouldn't play over 260-to-265 pounds if I was 6-foot-7. In today's game, with every team getting out in transition, with more possessions than ever before, it's concerning if a guy is carrying that much weight."

Never caught up to Barkley though and he was fat not muscle

The game is different today - more running/covering distance, more jumping and moving at weird angles, more stress on your joints/ligaments etc. Not to mention, Zion is a lot more reckless with his body than Chuck ever was.

And yes, Chuck did battle with multiple lower body injuries throughout his career - I mean shyt, his career ended because he ruptured a tendon in his knee.

Everybody is saying he needs to lose weight. They said that about Zach Randolph too. I know he isnt as tall as zbo but hes just as physical which in the soft nda nikkas aint gonna want to deal with

zbo feet never leave the court though

zbo plays with minimal impact to his legs

zion has already had some time out in highschool with foot/leg issues

285lb & plays with a lot of bounce it's a fair question as to how he holds up over a nba schedule

some cats may never take a major injury but they are definitely putting damage on their body still even teflon.bron was walking around with a padded back brace just to sit down

ground reaction forces impact joints it's just an aspect of physics athletes have to deal with & the more running jumping & weight the more force in question

*

But that has absolutely nothing to do with his weight or the way he plays.

His body will be fine playing at 285+ lbs at 6-7 - he’ll have a long, injury-free career

No worries

We tried to em @*~bigg~vvvave~* but they didn't wanna listen.

 

[L&HH]

Didn’t he just get cleared to play? Or did some new shyt happen?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

ive known for years most you coli nikkas were doom and gloom negative a$$holes...but this is low for even this crowd....

how about instead of pointing out everything that can possibly go wrong with dude....how about talking about what could go right?

ive watched basketball longer than some of you have been alive...and i have never seen a player as unique as this guy....the closest thing i can think of is lebron....

but he's bigger than lebron as almost as quick and as and fast...jumps like jordan....plays like barkley with a jumper....and dunks like kemp...shyt is incredible....

im sitting in here in awe....

and you nikkas are saying he'll get injured

What your goofy ass got to say now, nxgga?