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In the playoffs when the defense tightened up and the paint was sealed his only option was to throw up contested long two junk.
Now he can throw to Fournier (40+ from three) and Kemba Walker (37+ from three, even though I’m skeptical about this number going forward).

It would be dumb to double team him now
 

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Now he can throw to Fournier (40+ from three) and Kemba Walker (37+ from three, even though I’m skeptical about this number going forward).

It would be dumb to double team him now

is this not exsctly what i was sayin ... no where in my post did i say he shouldnt facilitate , or that he shouldnt be the main focus point of the offense
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it just doesnt NEED to be the only Offense , and that is referring to his short selection:yeshrug:by all.means have him create , be the decoy be your primary threat , but he doesnt need to force the action if its not ther3 is my point :hubie:
 

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Now he can throw to Fournier (40+ from three) and Kemba Walker (37+ from three, even though I’m skeptical about this number going forward).

It would be dumb to double team him now
Yeah, he has more shooters. Both are high volume three point shooters and like to run the P&R.

Still, Barrett will be held back with Julius on the roster.
 

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100 % ...but if randle tries to force that type of game he will be crucfied by NY media for it .. :manny:and probs the knicks fanbase as well:jbhmm::sas2: there is no point tryin 2 improve in th3 off szn with those acquisitions to have julius play th3 same way..obviously when he is beatin his man and dominatin u keep goin 2 him , but times when its not he kant keep jackin shots like at times last year:yeshrug:
He wasn't bad last year as his first season here. I don't think he'll be chucking this season either and seems leaner so he'll be moving quicker.
 

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I am going to be honest a lot of teams made a lot of moves this offseason and other teams got healthy.

It’s hard to predict anything and the Knicks are one of several teams we won’t really know what they are about until about half way through the season.

Fournier, and Kemba is bringing in a starting back court and Mitch is coming back…. Plus the youth will be fighting for minutes.
 

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Knicks got better, but they'll probably finish with a worse record. Middle of the pack Eastern Conference teams got better and I'm expecting regression from the Knicks' defense with some improvements on offense.
 

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this aint a knock on julius... he is a dominant big and i have no doubt he will b even better this year ..he will.also make better decisions, with better talent around him :yeshrug:


You really think he'll be better ? 24/10/6 ?
 

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his efficiency can improve, but yeah I doubt he’ll score more than 24 a game

edit: which is good, no need for him to have such a heavy load

They could be a better team with him not being as good as last year and thats not a bad thing but i doubt he'll be as good as last season statistically...
 

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You really think he'll be better ? 24/10/6 ?

better decision maker x team player ..

im sure he is workin on bein a more effecient catch n shoot, im sure he workin attackin right x left ..

maybe better is wrong wordng...he will be more mor3 dangerous x more effecient..
 

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Breaking down the Knicks' potential 2021-22 rotation
New York projects as one of the deeper teams in the NBA

Although the Knicks largely brought back their roster from last season, two major upgrades have them primed to compete for home court in the playoffs once again.

Here’s a preview of what their rotation might look like...

Projected rotation and minutes
Point guard: Kemba Walker 32 | Derrick Rose 16

Shooting guard: RJ Barrett 34 | Immanuel Quickley 14

Small forward: Evan Fournier 34 | Alec Burks 14

Power forward: Julius Randle 36 | Obi Toppin 12

Center: Mitchell Robinson 30 | Nerlens Noel 18

Spot minutes: Quentin Grimes, Taj Gibson, Kevin Knox, Luca Vildoza/Miles McBride


Though the Knicks improved their depth and shouldn’t have to claw for a postseason spot this season, Tom Thibodeau will still run his best players in a tight rotation as much as possible. Walker’s 32 minutes is equivalent to his amount in Boston, but Fournier sees a bump from his career averages playing under Thibs for the first time.

Randle and Barrett see slight drops on a better team with more help. Obviously, bench guys will finish with much more playing time than their projected minutes suggest due to injuries, blowouts and other factors.

With the amount of players who can erupt on a given night, expect Thibs to lean on whoever’s hot that evening.

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Lineups and substitutions
These positions also won’t be stagnant, as Thibodeau has an assortment of weapons to play around with creatively. Last season’s rotation was mostly clear-cut, outside of changes on the margins, calls for a new starting point guard, and a lineup featuring Toppin and Randle in the frontcourt.

This year, we could see a multitude of looks. A Knicks death lineup with Walker, Rose, Barrett, Fournier and Randle would be terrifying to guard. Just the idea of pairing Walker and Rose in lineups is enticing.

They could also go big with Burks at point guard and two of their over-6’6” wings along with Randle and Robinson. The aforementioned Toppin-Randle frontcourt should also get play given Toppin’s apparent improvement.

Expect Thibs to remain true to his patterns from last year, with his first sub usually coming at the point guard spot. He can rely on a two-headed attack with Walker and Rose, plus will want to reduce the former’s load somewhat.

The bench unit will likely be staggered so that Rose, Quickley, Burks and Toppin aren’t together too often. As strong a reserve squad as it is, it’s mashing a number of New York’s lesser defenders together. Barrett, Fournier or Randle will see some time alongside those backups.

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Three big questions
How can Quickley and Toppin earn themselves more minutes? Even assuming they both take a strong step forward, they’re somewhat limited in their rotation slots.

Quickley is behind Walker, Rose and Barrett in the guard rotation barring a radical change. Toppin doesn’t look ready to play the small forward and won’t find it easy cracking it into a stacked center rotation, thus is left picking up whatever minutes Randle leaves for him.

Can and will Thibs rest his key guys? There were cases last season when Randle and Barrett were competing late in fourth quarters up well over 20 points to a diminutive opponent.

Aside from silly habits like that, the Knicks have to weigh fighting for postseason seeding in the regular season versus keeping their guys healthy and energized for when it arrives. There’s also the health factors surrounding players like Walker and Robinson.

Does anybody emerge from the end of the bench? New York’s top 10 is solidified, but injuries and disappointing play mean anybody can have the chance to step up, even on a team that keeps its rotation small.

Rookie McBride may be the answer to New York possessing little to no defensive threats at the one position. Dwayne Bacon could be their go-to perimeter defender at some point, with maybe Knox or Grimes their backup four.

https://sny.tv/articles/knicks-potential-rotation-2021-22-breakdown
 
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