Young Muslims spazzes out on Christians, crowd throwing milk crates, bottles

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what do you think of the concepts of "fighting words" and "inciting" violence?

I don't care about your opinion or my opinion, or the "street" opinion.

Show me law.

We are civilization that aspires to rule best by a social contract where we realize that humans have emotions and will act on them, but those things might not be the best for a cohesive society.
 

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I don't care about your opinion or my opinion, or the "street" opinion.

Show me law.

We are civilization that aspires to rule best by a social contract where we realize that humans have emotions and will act on them, but those things might not be the best for a cohesive society.

There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality.

— Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 1942
 

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Nice try friend, the people here were given permits to exercise their free speech as sanctioned by the state. Chaplinsky's case was different, and it has been superseded twice on accounts of KKK parades and the Westboro Church, in which the court ruled that such speech is protected if within the rule of law.

These people were within the rule of law.
 

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Westboro believes that America is morally flawed; many Americans might feel the same about Westboro. Westboro's funeral picketing is certainly hurtful and its contribution to public discourse may be negligible. But Westboro addressed matters of public import on public property, in a peaceful manner, in full compliance with the guidance of local officials. The speech was indeed planned to coincide with Matthew Snyder's funeral, but did not itself disrupt that funeral, and Westboro's choice to conduct its picketing at that time and place did not alter the nature of its speech.

Roberts on the Westboro case
 

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:laugh: You all know I could give two fukks about Islam and I think it's the shyttiest religion on Earth, but I can't feel bad for any of those idiots getting shyt thrown at them.

Respectful debate and open-mindedness gets thrown out the window when one community of people runs up in another community's festival where they're minding their own business being provocative and inflammatory. Whatever happens after that :manny:

Whether or not Islam is a violent religion (and I think it is) is irrelevant when people are invading your personal space and being disrespectful. I'd say the exact same thing if it was some Muslim fanatics picketing a Christian gathering. I'm not bothering you. Get the fukk out of my space. Take a walk or you might get lumped.
 

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I think most of the ignorant and violent opinions here stems from the fact that the people being attacked are white, conservative and Christian. If this was a video of those UK Muslims protesting and holding signs that say death To Europe, people would be outraged if the British started throwing rocks and bricks (and rightfully so, as it should be in both cases).

Now don't get me wrong, white, conservative Christians (aka the GOP) are my least favorite group, but the law is the law.
 

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I think most of the ignorant and violent opinions here stems from the fact that the people being attacked are white, conservative and Christian. If this was a video of those UK Muslims protesting and holding signs that say death To Europe, people would be outraged if the British started throwing rocks and bricks.

:what:

ignorant and violent opinions?
 

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ignorant and violent opinions?

"People who are speaking their mind and doing it legally should still expect to be assaulted and beaten, and the law shouldn't prosecute anyone for commuingting violence as result of what is being said" constitutes an ignorant and violent opinion...in my opinion.
 

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I think most of the ignorant and violent opinions here stems from the fact that the people being attacked are white, conservative and Christian. If this was a video of those UK Muslims protesting and holding signs that say death To Europe, people would be outraged if the British started throwing rocks and bricks (and rightfully so, as it should be in both cases).

Now don't get me wrong, white, conservative Christians (aka the GOP) are my least favorite group, but the law is the law.

Stop it. It's about basic respect and ettiquette, nothing more. If someone physically enters your personal vicinity intentionally trying to prod you in an inflammatory manner, they're asking for whatever they get. I'd say the same exact thing if it was Muslims invading a Christian revival in small town white America somewhere and they got stuff thrown at them. It's a matter of principle more than law to me. Just leave people the fukk alone.
 

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Stop it. It's about basic respect and ettiquette, nothing more. If someone physically enters your personal vicinity intentionally trying to prod you in an inflammatory manner, they're asking for whatever they get. I'd say the same exact thing if it was Muslims invading a Christian revival in small town white America somewhere and they got stuff thrown at them. Just leave people the fukk alone.

Who gets to constitute what is inflammatory? Who gets to constitute what space is appropriate? Those people were there legally, as in, they got permits to protest.

If a woman wearing a Burka goes to a shopping mall in Kansas or Mississippi, should some redneck have the right to throw eggs or a rock on her because he deems her dressing as inflammatory and thinks she's proselytizing her religion in his "space"? Where do YOU draw the line? Where does the legal system draw the line?
 

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You dudes out there playing emotional checkers, and I'm here trying to debate the merits and components of political philosophy and governance.
 
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You dudes out there playing emotional checkers, and I'm here trying to debate the merits and components of political philosophy and governance.

that stuff flies over most posters heads in this thread



also when it comes to harassing freethinkers, islam is on another level,
muslims are unlike any other religious group in the world IMO
 
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