Young Chris finally breaks silence on Dame Dash and Jay-Z Rocafella split

[stave]

saw the thread title and knew it was MEO for some reason

 

[Cladyclad]

The bottom line is that Jay-Z felt he outgrew the situation. It's really not much deeper than that. We all have friends, business relationships and jobs we outgrow but people have such a huge attachment to the Roc that they're not willing to accept it. The most painful thing about the situation is that everyone else got caught up in and lost because of it. I kinda wished Jay had just walked away from Rocafella, left everything and started his own situation the same way Dre did Death Row because maybe everyone else would have had a fighting chance if Dame still kept Rocafella with Beans & State Property and Dipset but ultimately Dame and Biggs also decided to sell the company as well so they profited.

Nonetheless, Dame should stop talking about this.

That label had no chance without Jay that’s why Dame didn’t take Jay offer

the south and 50 rose. Dusty ass east coast cats were played out by 2005

 

[SpacelySprockets]

 

[re'up]

Damn. Yeah, it's all painfully obvious how it all went down. Sig fukked his own career up, and Chris and Neef had their own issues. But, they weren't going to be stars, Jay did a second album with them, and they even had a little hit in 2005 right? but it''s like trying to hold sand in your hands, none of that was promised forever.

Remember The Roc was supposed to be on The Solution

 

[Yecht]

Cot damn, took him so long to speak up he's Old Ass Chris now

 

[re'up]

That label had no chance without Jay that’s why Dame didn’t take Jay offer

the south and 50 rose. Dusty ass east coast cats were played out by 2005

In the bigger picture, 50 was done after 2005 too. GRODT the movie was the peak of his fame. The ground shifted under all of their feet. Jay pivoted. And had the money and status to keep going. Free and Beanie Sigel and the YG's put out dope albums between 2005 and 2007 but it just wasn't going ot be the same.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

In the bigger picture, 50 was done after 2005 too. GRODT the movie was the peak of his fame. The ground shifted under all of their feet. Jay pivoted. And had the money and status to keep going. Free and Beanie Sigel and the YG's put out dope albums between 2005 and 2007 but it just wasn't going ot be the same.

I think 50's mistake was burning himself out and oversaturated himself. He flat out gave too much material to Game, Banks, Buck, Yayo and G-unit. He essentially had 7 albums worth material out there with just two solo albums and that's not even including the mixtapes.

He oversaturated himself to the point where by 07, people were tired of him, the game shifted and he had no way to really recover. He was still a platinum artist but those first couple of singles off Curtis were BAD, amusement park and straight to the bank didn't work and if it wasn't for "I get money" which he dropped at the final hour, that album really might have been cooked.

 

[re'up]

I think 50's mistake was burning himself out and oversaturated himself. He flat out gave too much material to Game, Banks, Buck, Yayo and G-unit. He essentially had 7 albums worth material out there with just two solo albums and that's not even including the mixtapes.

He oversaturated himself to the point where by 07, people were tired of him, the game shifted and he had no way to really recover. He was still a platinum artist but those first couple of singles off Curtis were BAD, amusement park and straight to the bank didn't work and if it wasn't for "I get money" which he dropped at the final hour, that album really might have been cooked.

All true, but to some degree, in 2006, NONE of what worked in 2005 and 2004 worked anymore right? The albums went gold and got some play, but no one talked much about them, they didn't capture the game, or define the moment, they were just kind of there. Banks, Buck had solid follow ups. It didn't help that he seemed dead creatively and totally cynical.

The entire game was transitioning. I remember 2006 vividly, because I was super burnt, working a juvenile deliquent job, like one of those for parolees. And the game was all different. It was T Pain. Akon. E-40. Pitbull probably. All that shyt. Auto tune. Kanye. It was a new era, just wasn't quite apparent.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

All true, but to some degree, in 2006, NONE of what worked in 2005 and 2004 worked anymore right? Banks, Buck had solid follow ups. It didn't help that he seemed dead creatively and totally cynical.

The entire game was transitioning. Auto tune. Kanye. It was a new era, just wasn't quite apparent.

Well, The Game's first album the documentary came out in 2005 and carried on through 2006......He gave him hate it or love it, how we do, westside story, and church for thugs. All those records would have worked in 2006.

I think he seemed dead creatively because he gave so much of his music away to put his his team on.

Imagine if Jay-Z had released Vol 2, had his biggest album ever and then proceded to give Big Pimping and Give it to Me to Bleek and Beanie Sigel for nothing.

 

[jerzboy]

Math is terrible at this always

Is he always this bad?? First time watching him

 

[BK The Great]

I fukk with that album he made with that Philly rapper Ohdatsrida

 

[Street Knowledge]

I think 50's mistake was burning himself out and oversaturated himself. He flat out gave too much material to Game, Banks, Buck, Yayo and G-unit. He essentially had 7 albums worth material out there with just two solo albums and that's not even including the mixtapes.

He oversaturated himself to the point where by 07, people were tired of him, the game shifted and he had no way to really recover. He was still a platinum artist but those first couple of singles off Curtis were BAD, amusement park and straight to the bank didn't work and if it wasn't for "I get money" which he dropped at the final hour, that album really might have been cooked.

I get money and the Kanye battle saved that album

 

[IAMDetroit]

Jay a billionaire yet I will always relate to him on this shyt. I fw all of state prop and most of them been active rapping for years, but my goodness Chris ain’t done shyt in YEARS

Why you say that?

 

[cheapshot]

Jay told him to go solo. Chris made the wrong choice sticking with the group.

Nah. Chris seemed like he was on the J Cole path. He made plenty of solo records and mixtapes. Just couldn't get them to drop his album. I have no idea how Freeway got his second album released.

Everybody should have went independent after the breakup. They had a little buzz and maybe some music leftover. Jay wasn't at the controls like everybody thought.

 

[Braman]

Jay told him to go solo. Chris made the wrong choice sticking with the group.

Facts. Neef specifically. These nggas first ever track was them beefing with each other Chris literally sayin nggas wanted him to go solo and him begging Neef to get his shyt together

Good times man. I was on limwire 24/7 back then. I had a mixtape with the rough version of that song, SP on the ‘want me back’ beat way before Just blaze gave it to usher, Peedi and ‘Indy 500’, and mixed in as an afterthought was some of Kanye’s first songs. ‘My way’, the original Home, etc. Crazy they all came out the same time. Everybody can’t make it