Young Bron athleticism and range :wow:

[Eternal Tecate]

Jesus

Zion is the closest one athletically some of their movements are very similar.

Zion and D Rose are the only players to get drafted after Lebron that even sniff his combination of burst and power. Maybe Westbrook too but he doesn't have that highest level of elevation, just a good wingspan.

 

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I dont see how else you could think its a matter of "inches" with Bron and Jordan without using the longevity stats. Along with using how many times Lebron got his teams to the finals. Like we really are supposed to ignore how many of those teams were super teams he manufactured. As far as their individual games its not close with the eye test. We all watched them both play right? Why are we lying to ourselves then? He really only has one title which is pretry unanimously unquestionable,and thats the one in Cleveland where he beat Golden State. Though imo he should thank Steph Curry whos performance is a stain on his legacy.

#LetGiannisGet3 in this environment with this Bucks team. You will start looking at Bron funny,which goes to show you the weak foundation of his goat status

You're entitled to your opinion, fam...

I get it Bron is your goat and that’s perfectly fine. How can Bron who attached his legacy to the real goat MJ be considered the goat. Peak dominance over competition is what determines the goat. MJ is “un debatably” the goat.

Kobe attached himself to Mike and people claim him as GOAT, you feel that way about Kobe?

Among marquee players, since LeBron entered The League in '03:

Most titles
(4)LeBron
(3)Duncan, Steph, Wade
(2)Kobe, KD, Kawhi

Most FMVPs
(4)LeBron
(2)Kobe, KD, Kawhi

Most MVPs
(4)LeBron
(2)Nash, Steph, Giannis

Most MVP runner up
(4)LeBron
(3)KD, Harden

Most Top 5 MVP finishes
(14)LeBron
(9)Kobe
(6)KD
(5)Harden, Paul

Most Finals appearances
(10)LeBron
(5)Wade, Steph
(4)Kobe, Duncan, Parker, KD

Most Conference Finals appearances
(11)LeBron
(7)Chauncey, Parker, KD
(6)Wade, Duncan

Most All-NBAs
(17)LeBron
(10)Kobe, Paul
(9)Duncan, Dirk

Most All-NBA 1st Teams
(13)LeBron
(9)Kobe
(6)Durant, Harden
(4)Duncan, Steph, Dirk, Paul

.........

This is a display of dominance over competition, no one leads him in any of this criteria in his time in The League, and in most cases it isn't close...

Re: "peak" dominance over competition, Mike's 5-year peak was roughly 1987-92. "Only" won two rings, two Finals appearances, four ECFs, three MVPs, two FMVPs, one MVP runner-up, was Top 5 MVP all five years...

Bron's 5-year peak was roughly 2009-14. "Only" won two rings, four Finals appearances, four ECFs, three MVPs, two FMVPs, one MVP runner-up, was Top 5 MVP all five years...

Your entire lean towards Mike in this topic leans on ring counting, nothing objective paints Mike as a greater player than Bron more than marginally, if even that...

 

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You're entitled to your opinion, fam...



Kobe attached himself to Mike and people claim him as GOAT, you feel that way about Kobe?

Among marquee players, since LeBron entered The League in '03:

Most titles
(4)LeBron
(3)Duncan, Steph, Wade
(2)Kobe, KD, Kawhi

Most FMVPs
(4)LeBron
(2)Kobe, KD, Kawhi

Most MVPs
(4)LeBron
(2)Nash, Steph, Giannis

Most MVP runner up
(4)LeBron
(3)KD, Harden

Most Top 5 MVP finishes
(14)LeBron
(9)Kobe
(6)KD
(5)Harden, Paul

Most Finals appearances
(10)LeBron
(5)Wade, Steph
(4)Kobe, Duncan, Parker, KD

Most Conference Finals appearances
(11)LeBron
(7)Chauncey, Parker, KD
(6)Wade, Duncan

Most All-NBAs
(17)LeBron
(10)Kobe, Paul
(9)Duncan, Dirk

Most All-NBA 1st Teams
(13)LeBron
(9)Kobe
(6)Durant, Harden
(4)Duncan, Steph, Dirk, Paul

.........

This is a display of dominance over competition, no one leads him in any of this criteria in his time in The League, and in most cases it isn't close...

Re: "peak" dominance over competition, Mike's 5-year peak was roughly 1987-92. "Only" won two rings, two Finals appearances, four ECFs, three MVPs, two FMVPs, one MVP runner-up, was Top 5 MVP all five years...

Bron's 5-year peak was roughly 2009-14. "Only" won two rings, four Finals appearances, four ECFs, three MVPs, two FMVPs, one MVP runner-up, was Top 5 MVP all five years...

Your entire lean towards Mike in this topic leans on ring counting, nothing objective paints Mike as a greater player than Bron more than marginally, if even that...

Your carefully curated stats still proves MJ is the goat so don’t what to tell you. I don’t need to carefully curate anything with MJ, we all know what we know.