"You Were African Before You Were Anything Else"

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I know you aren’t but I’ll say what I said before - words are imbued with meaning and context. Not all words are the same. Dwell on it, s’il te plait.
If you say african american. Being a american descendant of slavery is already included in the package. Ados is just a more detailed refined version of afram. But whatever
 

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If you had an ounce of wisdom rushing out of you,maybe it result in a run on sentence every once in a while too:respect:.


edit-btw to any kids watching,I'm only being rude because he negged me.
the funny thing is dude is African:dead:

This is the shyt i be talking about:heh:

You kinda caping hard for africans and ended up getting negged by one:deadmanny:
 

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That's a whole discussion in and of itself, I get you.


Whatever you wanna call it, #ADOS wants nothing to do with it and rebukes any association or connection to it when it's our ancestral home. The 'soul' we have that separates us from whites or hispanics or anybody else here are remnants from there that continue that fiercely embody us.

Some of y'all have a lot of false ideas when it comes to ADOS.

At the end of the day, all ADOS is really about is us identifying ourselves as a unique group, with a shared history and culture, fighting for our specific justice claims in this country.

It started as a group of "black" folks, that can trace their lineage back to slavery, pushing data on the wealth gap in this country, caused by hundreds of years of racist social and economic policies specifically targeting descendants of slaves, and fighting for reparations to correct this gap before the average wealth of an ADOS family drops to zero, like some economists have predicted will happen by 2050.

Period.

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Outside of that, you have some ADOS folks that recognize "Africa" as our ancestral home, some that don't.

You have some that don't like "black" immigrants, and some that want "black" immigrants as allies in our fight, while also willing to support them in their justice claims in their native lands.

Whenever you have a large group of people coming together for a specific cause, they aren't going to agree on everything, but this notion that ADOS is about us feeling superior to "Africans" and our Caribbean folks or being some sort of right wing group are all completely false.
 
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Some of y'all have a lot of false ideas when it comes to ADOS.

At the end of the day, all ADOS is really about is us identifying ourselves as a unique group, with a shared history and culture, fighting for our specific justice claims in this country.

It started as a group of "black" folks, that can trace their lineage back to slavery, pushing data on the wealth gap in this country, caused by hundreds of years of racist social and economic policies specifically targeting descendants of slaves, and fighting for reparations to correct this gap before the average wealth of an ADOS family drops to zero, like some economists have predicted will happen by 2050.

Period.

Outside of that, you have some ADOS folks that recognize "Africa" as our ancestral home, some that don't.

You have some that don't like "black" immigrants, and some that wants "black" immigrants as our allies in our fight, while also willing to support them in their justice claims in their native lands.

Whenever you have a large group of people coming together for a specific cause, they aren't going to agree on everything, but this notion that ADOS is about us feeling superior to "Africans" and our Caribbean folks or being some sort of right wing group are all completely false.
I still understannnnd the need for the name change but 'Afram' is dope. We've been recognizing unique history and culture WHIL acknowledging the continent and the influence it's had on us.

Bottom line here is, the founders of #ADOS are clearly anti black immigrant. And they and others try and say they're not but then tweets like Yvette's and threads like this happen and the evidence is jarring. That lady's comment was harmless. I strongly suggest those that aren't on that wave just diverge :manny: It doesn't mean you're against reparations exclusively for us... It just means you're not for the useless fukkery :blessed: come to the light breh, I know you see it
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I still understannnnd the need for the name change but 'Afram' is dope. We've been recognizing unique history and culture WHIL acknowledging the continent and the influence it's had on us.

Bottom line here is, the founders of #ADOS are clearly anti black immigrant. And they and others try and say they're not but then tweets like Yvette's and threads like this happen and the evidence is jarring. That lady's comment was harmless. I strongly suggest those that aren't on that wave just diverge :manny: It doesn't mean you're against reparations exclusively for us... It just means you're not for the useless fukkery :blessed: come to the light breh, I know you see it
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I've said up here a few times before that I fell back on Yvette and Tone a little bit because they stopped focusing on the data and allowed themselves to get caught up in too many arguments with immigrants, celebrities, and politicians.

But they started a movement that I definitely stand behind.

Its not just about them.

Pay attention to what I posted and recognize that this isn't a joke to me at all.

That data is real and if something isn't done right now, my children, grandchildren, and so on might be fukked.

They don't have another country to run to, this is our home, these are my people, and I'm going to stand with anyone fighting for us.
 

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I've said up here a few times before that I fell back on Yvette and Tone a little bit because they stopped focusing on the data and allowed themselves to get caught up in too many arguments with immigrants, celebrities, and politicians.

But they started a movement that I definitely stand behind.

Its not just about them.

Pay attention to what I posted and recognize that this isn't a joke to me at all.

That data is real and if something isn't done right now, my children, grandchildren, and so on might be fukked.

They don't have another country to run to, this is our home, these are my people, and I'm going to stand with anyone fighting for us.
Don't think you're joking, and I've noticed a number of people on here mention how they've backed off from them, so I'm saying... They make light of the situatiom/make it about themselves with a ton of the antics they entertain and feed their followers. Rather than strategy and campaigning. The data is cool, but if it's 4th and goal with one second on the clock... Repeating the completion percentages isn't gonna get you in the endzone-- you feel me?


They made if a hot line, time for the people to make it a hot song :manny:
 
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Don't think you're joking, and I've noticed a number of people on here mention how they've backed off from them, so I'm saying... They make light of the situatiom/make it about themselves with a ton of the antics they entertain and feed their followers. Rather than strategy and campaigning. The data is cool, but if it's 4th and goal with one second on the clock... Repeating the completion percentages isn't gonna get you in the endzone-- you feel me?


They made if a hot line, time for the people to make it a hot song :manny:

I had to log in just to say how nonsensical this response is

You are supposed to be a STEM major IRL

Nothing about the statistical analysis being wrong or anything to counter his data?

Troll better breh

Don't bother...logging back off.

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I still understannnnd the need for the name change but 'Afram' is dope. We've been recognizing unique history and culture WHIL acknowledging the continent and the influence it's had on us.

Bottom line here is, the founders of #ADOS are clearly anti black immigrant. And they and others try and say they're not but then tweets like Yvette's and threads like this happen and the evidence is jarring. That lady's comment was harmless. I strongly suggest those that aren't on that wave just diverge :manny: It doesn't mean you're against reparations exclusively for us... It just means you're not for the useless fukkery :blessed: come to the light breh, I know you see it
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I dont get why this is such an issue for you. Your not a black immigrant so why do you give a fukk:mjlol:

Wasting time and energy worrying about the wrong things. All you have to do is stay focused
 

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Don't think you're joking, and I've noticed a number of people on here mention how they've backed off from them, so I'm saying... They make light of the situatiom/make it about themselves with a ton of the antics they entertain and feed their followers. Rather than strategy and campaigning. The data is cool, but if it's 4th and goal with one second on the clock... Repeating the completion percentages isn't gonna get you in the endzone-- you feel me?


They made if a hot line, time for the people to make it a hot song :manny:

I hear you but pushing the data is what's ultimately going to get us what we're fighting for because it can't be disputed.

A lot of people don't know just how fukked the racial wealth gap in this country really is, what caused it, and what it's forecasted to be in the very near future.

They think the ADOS movement is just a couple nikkas that hate other "black" groups, are just complaining, and asking for a handout.

If we focus on educating folks on what's really going on and also focus on building bridges with potential allies then we might get what we're asking for.

But the powers that be, that created this system in the 1st place, and want to see ADOS wealth hit zero, will continue to do whatever they can to recruit naysayers to fight against us.

We're fanning the flames by engaging with the negativity, and allowing it to get us off point, instead of staying focused on educating and building.
 

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I had to log in just to say how nonsensical this response is

You are supposed to be a STEM major IRL

Nothing about the statistical analysis being wrong or anything to counter his data?

Troll better breh

Don't bother...logging back off.

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First of all, I'm not a STEM major. I'm interested in it and tryna break in the field. Second of all, you exactly providing a counter yourself. Just ad hominems.
I dont get why this is such an issue for you. Your not a black immigrant so why do you give a fukk:mjlol:

Wasting time and energy worrying about the wrong things. All you have to do is stay focused

Because black immigrants aren't who can provide reparations nor are they stopping it :gucci: and of course I'm a real life pan africanist :blessed:

I hear you but pushing the data is what's ultimately going to get us what we're fighting for because it can't be disputed.

A lot of people don't know just how fukked the racial wealth gap in this country really is, what caused it, and what it's forecasted to be in the very near future.

They think the ADOS movement is just a couple nikkas that hate other "black" groups, are just complaining, and asking for a handout.

If we focus on educating folks on what's really going on and also focus on building bridges with potential allies then we might get what we're asking for.

But the powers that be, that created this system in the 1st place, and want to see ADOS wealth hit zero, will continue to do whatever they can to recruit naysayers to fight against us.

We're fanning the flames by engaging with the negativity, and allowing it to get us off point, instead of staying focused on educating and building.

Gotta disagree with the bolded :patrice: For one, data can be manipulated. Two, other data can be used to silence your point-- we've seen that for a looooong time with black on black crime and they just as quickly assert that it can't be disputed. Three, white people BEEN known the data. It helped immensely with redlining communities and gentrification, prisons being built on third graders academic status, etc. Finally, just cuz you have the data doesn't mean whites will care... for all the afformentioned reasons.


I'm not saying data is useless and shouldn't be utilized, I'm just saying you can't rely on it to be the decisive blow. It's a tool to inform strategy. The bigger issue here is pointless diaspora wars and gossip though.
 

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Because black immigrants aren't who can provide reparations nor are they stopping it :gucci: and of course I'm a real life pan africanist :blessed:



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I mean, i guess? lol

Just seems odd for this to consistently be at the top of your list of grievances, considering your ados.

Whether right or wrong. I couldnt imagine being afram and dealing with real shyt like slavery,reparations,culture etc-

And than having e-beef against immigrants on my mind. And actually letting that dominate my thought

immigrants can worry about immigrants breh. But do you
 

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I mean, i guess? lol

Just seems odd for this to consistently be at the top of your list of grievances, considering your ados.

Whether right or wrong. I couldnt imagine being afram and dealing with real shyt like slavery,reparations,culture etc-

And than having e-beef against immigrants on my mind. And actually letting that dominate my thought


immigrants can worry about immigrants breh. But do you

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And there it is :salute: dapped and repped. If we fighting for reparations then let's fight for reparations.
 
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