You know it's inevitable... The Batman V Superman SPOILER Discussion Thread

[Wild self]

Respect your opinion.. could of things though. Lex doesn't have beef with Batman. Lex knows that Batman have beef with Superman and wants to use him to try to kill Superman and almost succeeded in that. He was basically using Bruce as a pawn like he was using literally everyone else.

Also, I may have to disagree with Batman's cease of his aggression towards Superman and nearly killing. For starters, I cannot see any better way of doing it. Especially with this type of individual who not only have issue with him because of what happened at Metropolis, but even moreso when he had the vision and the warning by Flash saying that he was right all along and Superman is indeed a threat. So, NOTHING ELSE but something that connected him so intimately deep could of made Batman stop. Batman is a demented tormented individual. The murder of his parents as we ALL know fukked his head and it was something that was emphasized from his nightmares reliving that moment over and over. So for hear Superman say "save Martha", that's the one thing that he PERSONALLY could not save when his own mother was killed. That fukked him up. Then Lois coming in and explaining to him that's his own mother made Bruce realize that this "alien" is more human than he took for granted. It never occurred to him about Superman having parents or anything of that nature because how could he? All he ever saw of Superman is was from his perspective in Gotham and from his own Knightmare of the future. It is human nature to have words or actions that be triggers for others. Saying Batman's moms name was his. He almost lost it emotionally because that's the one person he could not save.... it was personal to him. It is why he vowed to save Superman's mom instead of Superman himself, as a way of self-redemption.

Well said. It's like critical thinking isn't allowed anymore.

 

[Norrin Radd]

do did lex kill mercy?

Yep.

 

[wire28]

The Thanos and cube scenes were post credit, in other words the story is finished but here's a peak at the next story. The Flash scene happens in the middle of the story goes completley unexplained and has no bearing on how it ends. Even with age of Ultron, which got shyt for doing the same thing, the random scene at least related to the macguffin of the film.

That quick and clean shut down

 

[Still FloW]

So I'll say this, I'm a Snyder fan so the hate he gets doesn't ride on the same wavelength with me. Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Watchmen are all personal favorites of mine.

I also think this movie was good but it wasn't good enough. The Batman portions were great and he should have complete control over that franchise because he caught the essence perfectly but it seems he's having trouble carrying different stories along with creating an interesting Superman character. The Lex character is fine because its a callback to his mad scientist origins instead of the current Lex who's more businessman.

The final act from the BvS fight to the Doomsday battle was executed very well as far as showcasing the high tier abilities of Supes, Doomsday, and Wonder Woman while showing the bravery and mettle of Batman against all odds. I think it all climaxed well but, and I'm repeating again, the Superman/Clark Kent portions outside of the action brought this shyt down.

Above all it set the tone for things to come and I really am feeling the dark foreboding atmosphere this is projecting with the eventual appearance of

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Apokolips on earth. Because atleast in animated efforts the threat of Darkseid was taken a little too lightly considering what he represents.

Just my two cents on this.

Basically...

 

[Norrin Radd]

 

[LinusCaldwell]

This movie has booboo writing smh

 

[Roman Brady]

Do you know where I can find the full movie? I ain't paying to watch it again

 

[Norrin Radd]

I torrented it and got a really decent cam version.

 

[Dilltastic VolWon(derful)]

Low key might of been my favorite moment in the film.

I'm sold on the wonder woman film which I previously had 0 interest in.

I could only imagine a 2 hour film of her and other Amazonians just as bad as her.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

1.) I know that. I didn't say Bruce did not know about the White Portuguese. I was saying everything that Superman was connected to served as more fuel to take him out.

2,.) I have absolutely no issue with any characterization of Superman. Superman been around for nearly EIGHTY years with different interpretations and evolution of the character in reflection to society of the times. The same goes to Batman as well. Superman went from having limited powers (couldn't even fly) to being overpowered, to multiple characterizations from its original metaphor to Moses to the current metaphor for Jesus and his integration towards society. Once upon a time his classic motto was "truth, justice, and the American way" then decades later they have him disowning his American citizenship. There's SO MANY WAYS you can interpret and reinvent this character that there isn't just one standard. The problem is that too many people are conditioned to the Richard Donner version because it is what they grew up on. But Superman in the comics isn't like that anymore. There's nothing wrong with him being simply an alien and not perfect. To me, I have no issue with that because the main reason I personally never cared for Superman is because he was "boring". He was made and viewed as TOO powerful and TOO perfect. There's nothing interesting about. I like the idea of an alien that have so much power and still cannot save everyone. That still is flawed in trying to hold himself accountable for his own actions that maybe consequential. Off topic, this is the beauty of Spider-Man and the famous quote, with "great powers come great responsibility", because Spider-Man always try to do the right thing and there's always some kind of consequence that will happen regardless of how hard he tries. With Superman, he just assumed the role of the Man of Steel. He knows that he can use his powers for good and tries. But not everyone trusts him because he is still an alien and an all powerful alien that selectively saves those in need. And this goes by to the whole Jesus-faith analogy in which Jesus is supposedly the Christ, the savior for man. And people expect for Jesus to be there at your dire time of need and some lose faith because they accuse of him not there whereas other praise him for being that savior in need.

If you don't feel this take on Superman, that's cool. I am okay with it. It'll be interesting how he'll be like once he's resurrected.

Nicely put. Looks like dude didn't know how to respond so he picked one thing he didn't like and bounced

 

[Hammer]

massive flop of a movie

 

[TKOK]

Yep.

I don't understand why he killed her. Maybe she wasn't privy to the fact shyt was gonna be blown to hell.


she was though.

Other than the scene where superman spears doomsday and maybe wonderwoman's entry it kind of felt like the score was for a different movie than what we were viewing

Breh I was when Lex first showed up on t he krpyton ship they had this loud bad guy music playing as he walked down the stairs.

 

[Norrin Radd]

I don't understand why he killed her. Maybe she wasn't privy to the fact shyt was gonna be blown to hell.


she was though.

They probably just overlooked it. But I just know if somebody brings it up to Snyder he'll say it was intentional

 

[TKOK]

They probably just overlooked it. But I just know if somebody brings it up to Snyder he'll say it was intentional

Like how they offed Jimmy Olson cause they didn't have have time for him.

 

[Truefan31]

The movie was kind of a letdown because of the writing. The writers stayed pourin jelly on themselves.