You know it's inevitable... The Batman V Superman SPOILER Discussion Thread

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LMAO @ Lois lane having super hearing after the super speed from MOS :bryan:

"it's his mother's name" nikka throat was fukked up and barely said that out loud n you just got here how you hear that shyt bytch? :dahell:

I wanna go in but it's late lemme table this shyt

batman was the one she heard, he repeated it after sup said it...
 

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Seeing the Michigan Avenue train station had my daughter acting a fool lol, every time she sees it in the car with me she says it looks creepy, I ain't even have to point it out to her, my baby is growing up breh's :to:. Detroit monument, also used in Transformers and a bunch of movies and rapper videos (Eminem, 50 Cent, etc). The joy of seeing places I go to in this movie was straight up :whew:. That Jimmy John's when Batman was running into the dust is a spot I hit all the time. Made me like the movie even more
 
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fukk anybody who thought this movie was good, man of steel wasn't close to being this bad.

Superman straight up killed the african guy and seemly enjoyed it at the beginning, I thought it was some kind of dream sequence, but nobody even acknowledged.
People really don't view black people as human lives.

Movie had no plot, which is common in American films today. Nobody even knows what Wonder Woman was doing or what purpose she served.

Lex Luthor had zero motivations, had no idea what he was trying to accomplish in the movie.

superman barely had any speaking lines in a movie that's suppose be about him lol.

batman is just purposely made to be dumb when he has no rational reason to be mad at superman about anything lol, also batman kills criminals yet branding them with a symbol is somehow crossing the line in the eyes of clark kent and alfred lol.

Seriously, Superman returns was better than this shyt. The coat Kevin Spacey wore shyts on anything in this travesty, one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

The best action scene was batman fighting the russian goons, but they already showed that in the trailer lol.

superman doesn't do anything super. No ex-ray vision , no freezing breathe, these are things he did all the time in the Christopher Reeves movies.

Superman is suppose to have speed like the flash lol, can see through buildings, can hear people all around he world, but he gets blackmailed by lex luthor who has his mother lol

Superman suppose to be faster than Goku according to his fan, he should be able to search the city in a minute, he can hear everything and see through walls lol, he time it took him to go batman he should've been able to rescue his mother lol. This is the problem when you have a character who's traits are all created by fan fiction.
He only has powers that suits the situation to put him over another character, but nobody cares when these so called powers he has aren't put to use in situations.

Even in a weak state, a fraction of his power should be enough to knock batman out lol, a regular man can knock batman out because his chin isn't even protected by anything with that iron man suit on lol. He got his ass whooped worst than in superman returns, i mean damn, he got his ass whooped the whole movie. Batman beat his ass, then doomsday beat his ass, let's just face nobody cares about superman. This was batman's movie, superman just happened to be there.

affleck has wayne wasn't believable, he was just ben affleck, besides the one hand to hand scene, the action scenes were just dull. The nightmare scene was just dumb. That flash scene was just, pointless, because it played zero factor in the movie.

This is just a cash grab, zero effort was put into this, the whole movie was in the trailer, which is odd because his movie is long as fukk but nothing happens except the events in the trailer.

They had a funeral for Clark Kent and Superman, you can't bury two bodies at the same time lol. Ben Afflecks dialogue with wonder woman at the end was just straight corn.

Also the score didn't match the scenes, just terrible, DC gonna have to make their own film studio with marvel to make a decent product.
 
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fukk anybody who thought this movie was good, man of steel wasn't close to being this bad.

Superman straight up killed the african guy and seemly enjoyed it at the beginning, I thought it was some kind of dream sequence, but nobody even acknowledged.
People really don't view black people as human lives.

Movie had no plot, which is common in American films today. Nobody even knows what Wonder Woman was doing or what purpose she served.

Lex Luthor had zero motivations, had no idea what he was trying to accomplish in the movie.

superman barely had any speaking lines in a movie that's suppose be about him lol.

batman is just purposely made to be dumb when he has no rational reason to be mad at superman about anything lol, also batman kills criminals yet branding them with a symbol is somehow crossing the line in the eyes of clark kent and alfred lol.

Seriously, Superman returns was better than this shyt. The coat Kevin Spacey wore shyts on anything in this travesty, one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

The best action scene was batman fighting the russian goons, but they already showed that in the trailer lol.

superman doesn't do anything super. No ex-ray vision , no freezing breathe, these are things he did all the time in the Christopher Reeves movies.

Superman is suppose to have speed like the flash lol, can see through buildings, can hear people all around he world, but he gets blackmailed by lex luthor who has his mother lol

Superman suppose to be faster than Goku according to his fan, he should be able to search the city in a minute, he can hear everything and see through walls lol, he time it took him to go batman he should've been able to rescue his mother lol. This is the problem when you have a character who's traits are all created by fan fiction.
He only has powers that suits the situation to put him over another character, but nobody cares when these so called powers he has aren't put to use in situations.

Even in a weak state, a fraction of his power should be enough to knock batman out lol, a regular man can knock batman out because his chin isn't even protected by anything with that iron man suit on lol. He got his ass whooped worst than in superman returns, i mean damn, he got his ass whooped the whole movie. Batman beat his ass, then doomsday beat his ass, let's just face nobody cares about superman. This was batman's movie, superman just happened to be there.

affleck has wayne wasn't believable, he was just ben affleck, besides the one hand to hand scene, the action scenes were just dull. The nightmare scene was just dumb. That flash scene was just, pointless, because it played zero factor in the movie.

This is just a cash grab, zero effort was put into this, the whole movie was in the trailer, which is odd because his movie is long as fukk but nothing happens except the events in the trailer.

They had a funeral for Clark Kent and Superman, you can't bury two bodies at the same time lol. Ben Afflecks dialogue with wonder woman at the end was just straight corn.

Also the score didn't match the scenes, just terrible, DC gonna have to make their own film studio with marvel to make a decent product.

Terrible post. But I'll let my lil homies pick it apart. :mjlol:
 

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fukk anybody who thought this movie was good, man of steel wasn't close to being this bad.

Superman straight up killed the african guy and seemly enjoyed it at the beginning, I thought it was some kind of dream sequence, but nobody even acknowledged.
People really don't view black people as human lives.

Movie had no plot, which is common in American films today. Nobody even knows what Wonder Woman was doing or what purpose she served.

Lex Luthor had zero motivations, had no idea what he was trying to accomplish in the movie.

superman barely had any speaking lines in a movie that's suppose be about him lol.

batman is just purposely made to be dumb when he has no rational reason to be mad at superman about anything lol, also batman kills criminals yet branding them with a symbol is somehow crossing the line in the eyes of clark kent and alfred lol.

Seriously, Superman returns was better than this shyt. The coat Kevin Spacey wore shyts on anything in this travesty, one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

The best action scene was batman fighting the russian goons, but they already showed that in the trailer lol.

superman doesn't do anything super. No ex-ray vision , no freezing breathe, these are things he did all the time in the Christopher Reeves movies.

Superman is suppose to have speed like the flash lol, can see through buildings, can hear people all around he world, but he gets blackmailed by lex luthor who has his mother lol

Superman suppose to be faster than Goku according to his fan, he should be able to search the city in a minute, he can hear everything and see through walls lol, he time it took him to go batman he should've been able to rescue his mother lol. This is the problem when you have a character who's traits are all created by fan fiction.
He only has powers that suits the situation to put him over another character, but nobody cares when these so called powers he has aren't put to use in situations.

Even in a weak state, a fraction of his power should be enough to knock batman out lol, a regular man can knock batman out because his chin isn't even protected by anything with that iron man suit on lol. He got his ass whooped worst than in superman returns, i mean damn, he got his ass whooped the whole movie. Batman beat his ass, then doomsday beat his ass, let's just face nobody cares about superman. This was batman's movie, superman just happened to be there.

affleck has wayne wasn't believable, he was just ben affleck, besides the one hand to hand scene, the action scenes were just dull. The nightmare scene was just dumb. That flash scene was just, pointless, because it played zero factor in the movie.

This is just a cash grab, zero effort was put into this, the whole movie was in the trailer, which is odd because his movie is long as fukk but nothing happens except the events in the trailer.

They had a funeral for Clark Kent and Superman, you can't bury two bodies at the same time lol. Ben Afflecks dialogue with wonder woman at the end was just straight corn.

Also the score didn't match the scenes, just terrible, DC gonna have to make their own film studio with marvel to make a decent product.

I wanted to like it
 

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fukk anybody who thought this movie was good, man of steel wasn't close to being this bad.

Superman straight up killed the african guy and seemly enjoyed it at the beginning, I thought it was some kind of dream sequence, but nobody even acknowledged.
People really don't view black people as human lives.

Movie had no plot, which is common in American films today. Nobody even knows what Wonder Woman was doing or what purpose she served.

Lex Luthor had zero motivations, had no idea what he was trying to accomplish in the movie.

superman barely had any speaking lines in a movie that's suppose be about him lol.

batman is just purposely made to be dumb when he has no rational reason to be mad at superman about anything lol, also batman kills criminals yet branding them with a symbol is somehow crossing the line in the eyes of clark kent and alfred lol.

Seriously, Superman returns was better than this shyt. The coat Kevin Spacey wore shyts on anything in this travesty, one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

The best action scene was batman fighting the russian goons, but they already showed that in the trailer lol.

superman doesn't do anything super. No ex-ray vision , no freezing breathe, these are things he did all the time in the Christopher Reeves movies.

Superman is suppose to have speed like the flash lol, can see through buildings, can hear people all around he world, but he gets blackmailed by lex luthor who has his mother lol

Superman suppose to be faster than Goku according to his fan, he should be able to search the city in a minute, he can hear everything and see through walls lol, he time it took him to go batman he should've been able to rescue his mother lol. This is the problem when you have a character who's traits are all created by fan fiction.
He only has powers that suits the situation to put him over another character, but nobody cares when these so called powers he has aren't put to use in situations.

Even in a weak state, a fraction of his power should be enough to knock batman out lol, a regular man can knock batman out because his chin isn't even protected by anything with that iron man suit on lol. He got his ass whooped worst than in superman returns, i mean damn, he got his ass whooped the whole movie. Batman beat his ass, then doomsday beat his ass, let's just face nobody cares about superman. This was batman's movie, superman just happened to be there.

affleck has wayne wasn't believable, he was just ben affleck, besides the one hand to hand scene, the action scenes were just dull. The nightmare scene was just dumb. That flash scene was just, pointless, because it played zero factor in the movie.

This is just a cash grab, zero effort was put into this, the whole movie was in the trailer, which is odd because his movie is long as fukk but nothing happens except the events in the trailer.

They had a funeral for Clark Kent and Superman, you can't bury two bodies at the same time lol. Ben Afflecks dialogue with wonder woman at the end was just straight corn.

Also the score didn't match the scenes, just terrible, DC gonna have to make their own film studio with marvel to make a decent product.

I think you REALLY wasn't paying attention at all.

1. Yes, Superman killed that one African terrorist leader. It was a HUGE deal that set-up the entire plot. Not only was it acknowledge, the ENTIRE SENATE hearing was about that.

2. The movie has one of the simplest plots, but a lot of depth. The plot is simple: Does Earth need someone who is a God in man's image. Lex Luthor views Superman as the ultimate threat to mankind's existence and want Superman out of existence by way of using Batman. That is it. Everything else is subplots that links Luthor being behind everything just to set up the demise of Superman.

3. Wonder Woman's purpose was a subplot to introduce the Justice League. Lex was searching for other metahumans and discovered files on her. She learned about this and wants to get them back because she didn't want to be exposed.

4. Lex Luthor had one motivation. To kill Superman, not just physically, but also what he represented symbolically to people. That's the reason behind the staged African massacre, the suicide bombing at the Senate, and getting the military and government approved exclusive access to Supergirl's ship and Zod's body. As well as manipulating both Batman and Superman to have an automatic dislike, especially with Batman who was determined to end Superman for those same reasons that Luthor believed, but the only difference is Batman wants to kill Superman to save humanity, whereas Luthor wants it for his own selfish desire. Luthor is a narcissist with a superiority complex and even the idea of a God that can rule over man rubs him the wrong way. He takes self-gratification in a man being able to kill or control God. He explains his rationale plenty of times, not just to Superman, but as well as to Senator Finch.

5. The movie IS supposed to be about him, but it is mostly through the perspectives of everyone else. So, of course he wouldn't have many dialogue. This film is an theologian analogy to the Passion of Christ in which Jesus comes in and claims to be a savior of mankind, the people have mixed feelings about him, he's been judged, he is crucified, and in the end it is hinted to his resurrection. The parallels to this and Jesus are quite blatant. So, of course it doesn't have heavy dialogue from Superman himself, it doesn't it... it mostly from everyone else's POV.

6. Batman had every reason to see Superman as a threat. a.) he was there at ground zero and witnessed his own financial building destroyed and his employees killed or paralyzed. b.) he gets a vision and a warning about Superman and how a world under his totalitarian rule would look like (implying the whole INJUSTICE narrative). c.) he discovered the return checks by his former employee with Lex making it look like his former employee didn't have his back then seeing the Capitol building explode with Superman in it. He had motives. And, as suggested by Alfred, since the learning of Superman's existence and how it affected innocent lives that Bruce personally saw get killed, Batman's brutality increase to having zero-fukks. There's no evidence of him bring a killing machine prior to Superman. And even when the sex slave trader was caught... he didn't kill him, just branded him and that was the 1st time Clark heard of Batman's actions and ethics. And not only that, the dream/vision sequence was from an alternate timeline. Lastly, he never went out to try to kill people with the purpose to kill people with the exception of Superman because he firmly believe he needed to be dead. The car chase scene was mostly either incidental or by trafficker's own fault. The warehouse scene... he didn't really kill ANYONE intentionally. He didn't go in there guns blazing on some Punisher shyt. The people who were killed was when dude fell on his own grenade, those who self-inflicted their own deaths, and the head Russian holding Martha Kent which, BTW is literally straight from Frank Miller's TDKR graphic novel and even with that Batman didn't shot him point blank. He shot at the flame torch and that exploded into flames....without truly confirmation of if dude was dead or have extreme degree burns. He's brutal, he's doesn't give a fucck anymore but it's not out seeking to kill with that being the 1st thought.

7. You saying Superman Returns... a movie with zero action. The worst story plot ever in comic book history. And a force-fed love note to Richard Donner. You lose points for that alone.

8. The warehouse scene wasn't shown just a little bit in the trailer, not the full entire thing.

9. Lets start with the fact that Superman was holding back in the fight against Batman. But Superman used his hearing A LOT... he used his speed to get from point A to point B a lot. He definitely used his laser vision which is his deadliest weapon a lot. So what are you talking about? Who CARES if he didn't use his cooling breathe? What purpose would it serve? Lastly, it is very much implied that he used his X-ray vision a number of times. Afterall, it is how he knew who Batman was.

10. Superman used his speed to get anywhere at a blink of an eye. He is capable of all the things you said, except he CANNOT see or hear through LEAD not that means anything. What he also cannot do is read minds. How the hell could he know where his mom IS? Saying to use so-called super hearing. It DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT. It's not like he can hear everything everywhere. Even that has limits. That's like Quinn telling Han "We could use the FORCE"... dummy... it doesn't work like that.

11. Again, if he was to find where his mother was within time... she would of been killed. PERIOD. It was that simple. Plus, you dismiss the fact that Lex had a contingency plan and was creating doomsday already and he was using Superman to buy that extra time if Batman wasn't able to do the job.

12. Again, Superman didn't want to fight Batman to begin with. 2nd of all, Batman was in his protective suit that prevents him getting knocked out, and lastly he had extra rounds of Kryptonite gas grenades to ensure Superman can be out of commission. Other words, Batman had PREP-TIME.

13. The Knightmare scene is arguably one of the most important foreshadowing scenes implying INJUSTICE being part of the upcoming Justice League movie.

14. So, the African massacre, the Senate bombing, the Flash visions, the metahuman files, oh and the DEATH OF SUPERMAN is all from the trailers. Okay.

15. Again, not even paying attention Bruce stated the Superman coffin is empty. And the conversation is straight corn? How? Because Bruce told Diana that they need to recruit for form a Justice League due to his own foreshadowed predictions to what's to come?

16. And there it is.... Marvel stan boyisms. But you WB still got your money! :umad:
 

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Did Soledad O'Brien die at the Senate hearing when the building blew up?

She was there covering it, wasn't she? :dwillhuh:

Patrick Leahy (real life Senator who has appeared in a few Batman movies) definitely died in this one. He was sitting next to Senator Finch.

Senator%20Leahy.jpg
 

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nikkas is really furious that this movie is getting shytted on.

It was alright but far from great, which is what I was expecting it to be. So far about 10 of my friends have seen this and they all thought it was just decent. None of us read the comics and that's where I think they went wrong. Too much stuff seemed dependent on the fact the the comic lore is known.

Let's take Lex for example. Complaints of how he acted have been countered with the fact that he's not the original Lex. How are we to know that it's basically not Lex the general public is familiar with? Just cause he says something along the lines of "no, that was my dad."? Not good enough for a lot of moviegoers evidently.

Batman not stabbing Superman because their mothers share the same name was very, very weak. 1 moment in time instantly erases the past 18 months of hatred that has been building up inside Bruce is poor writing.

Once again, the Flash sequence; for people that have no idea wtf the Injustice storyline is, how are they to make sense of that? We see someone saying Lois is the key and that's basically it. It looks like a dream that has nothing to do with the rest of the movie.

I'm probably checking it out again later today. It'll probably be better the 2nd time around and the blu-ray should be even better.
 

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Just gonna paste my review in here


Just got back.

This film needed to be an absolute all time great film to be given a fair chance. It wasn't that. It's had a hive,mob mentality against it since day 1. People hated Zach, they hated Ben, they hated Jesse, they hated gal. Everything about it caused an uproar and people have been foaming at the mouth to hate it. People can deny it all they want, but marvels fan base has become more and more acidic,they're the new Apple sheep. Just look at the downright glee fakkits like@Ethnic Vagina Finder have at bad reviews.

The film is good,but it isn't great. It takes risks. It doesn't pander. It wants to be what it is and it doesn't care what you like. The biggest critiques I've seen of the film are that this film isn't what they wanted it to be. The characters are so iconic that people have expectations of what they should be. Nobody knows who ant man or Starlord are so marvel doesn't have the same vitriol and stiff expectations.

That said, the first hour is a bit shaky. There are so many moving parts and the pace is so fast that if you don't already know these characters it might be too much. The last hour and a half are almost flawless though.

Lex,like the film, is hate or love it. I think they could have toned him down a bit and it would have been more effective. That said, I do not hate him. He had just enough menace and brilliance that it made up for his quirkiness.

Wonder Woman stole the film in her little appearance.

Superman was just the same as man of steel superman. I like this portrayal,some don't.

Ben Affleck was incredible as batman. His fights were visceral and put Nolan to shame. I need a Ben batman film immediately.

I was impressed they had the balls to allude to certain JL story lines this soon.

I pray they aren't shaken by the reviews and mob mentality against the film and follow through on their vision.

End of the day, if you wanted to hate this film,you'll hate it. If you wanted to love it,you will. It's not bad enough or good enough to shake people from their pre-conceived notions.


8.5/10
 

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nikkas is really furious that this movie is getting shytted on.

It was alright but far from great, which is what I was expecting it to be. So far about 10 of my friends have seen this and they all thought it was just decent. None of us read the comics and that's where I think they went wrong. Too much stuff seemed dependent on the fact the the comic lore is known.

Let's take Lex for example. Complaints of how he acted have been countered with the fact that he's not the original Lex. How are we to know that it's basically not Lex the general public is familiar with? Just cause he says something along the lines of "no, that was my dad."? Not good enough for a lot of moviegoers evidently.

Batman not stabbing Superman because their mothers share the same name was very, very weak. 1 moment in time instantly erases the past 18 months of hatred that has been building up inside Bruce is poor writing.

Once again, the Flash sequence; for people that have no idea wtf the Injustice storyline is, how are they to make sense of that? We see someone saying Lois is the key and that's basically it. It looks like a dream that has nothing to do with the rest of the movie.

I'm probably checking it out again later today. It'll probably be better the 2nd time around and the blu-ray should be even better.

2nd time around it was
Better for me compared
To the first
 

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nikkas is really furious that this movie is getting shytted on.

It was alright but far from great, which is what I was expecting it to be. So far about 10 of my friends have seen this and they all thought it was just decent. None of us read the comics and that's where I think they went wrong. Too much stuff seemed dependent on the fact the the comic lore is known.

Let's take Lex for example. Complaints of how he acted have been countered with the fact that he's not the original Lex. How are we to know that it's basically not Lex the general public is familiar with? Just cause he says something along the lines of "no, that was my dad."? Not good enough for a lot of moviegoers evidently.

Batman not stabbing Superman because their mothers share the same name was very, very weak. 1 moment in time instantly erases the past 18 months of hatred that has been building up inside Bruce is poor writing.

Once again, the Flash sequence; for people that have no idea wtf the Injustice storyline is, how are they to make sense of that? We see someone saying Lois is the key and that's basically it. It looks like a dream that has nothing to do with the rest of the movie.

I'm probably checking it out again later today. It'll probably be better the 2nd time around and the blu-ray should be even better.

The thing that KILLS me is this complaint about Batman not killing Superman. 1st of all, we KNOW for a fact that they're going to team up. I ask this question. HOW ELSE could it be done? There has to be a scene or an incident or something to get Batman to change his view about Superman and if this was an absolute battle to the death and Batman is literally on the VERGE of killing... tell me WHAT OTHER WAY could it been prevented? Someone PLEASE suggest a bigger reason for Batman to eventually side with Superman.

I say that to tell say. I have ZERO ISSUES with it. It didn't even occurred to me that both Superman and Batman's mothers had the same name even in the comics. If this would of been something that was just made up in the film, I could slightly understand it as a cop out. But in regards to both of those character really are named that in the comic book, I feel is a genius way to make that connect. Not because of the NAME itself, but what their mothers meant to both Batman and Superman.

From Superman's perspective, the only thing on his mind was saving his mother. He was on the verge of getting killed. He DOES NOT CARE if he gets killed, he's not even pleading for his life, he is BEGGING this stranger to save his mother....that is all he has left! He never knew his biological mom. His is the only mother he knows and that is the only thing that is on his mind... not that he's about to be killed, but that his mother will be killed unless someone saves her.

On Batman's perspective.... the ENTIRE REASON that he is Batman is because of the murder of his parents right in front of him. He is FUCCKED UP mentally. That is common knowledge that's been reinforced countless and countless of times. Batman is mentally, emotionally, psychologically tormented because of the death of his parents. He is forever TRAPPED to that torment. And you didn't even have to know this from reading the comics, he was BLATANTLY made immediately by opening the movie up with that infamous scene and repeated by the nightmares he keeps getting. In this movie he's more psychologically damaged than in any other film version of him. So having someone who he only just saw as an ALIEN and nothing more say his mother's name... why shouldn't that just fukk HIM UP IN THE HEAD. This alien just called out his mother's name and did no know him for squat. Every person have an emotional trigger point. And a lot of people with regular PTSD would spazz out if you say something that connects to things that initiated that PSTD to begin with. Batman is BEYOND having PSTD, dude is a nutcase that dressing up in a batsuit and sparks his own brand of terror upon criminals. He has nightmares. He keeps reliving that incident.... saying his mother's name is an emotional TRIGGER.

Then when Lois shows up and states that it is Superman's mother, not only did he stop viewing Superman as merely some dangerous alien, it was the 1st time he actually sees him as a person pleading for his mother to be saved. A situation in which he COULD NOT SAVE HIS OWN MOTHER, there for a chance for personal redemption. This is why he volunteered to go save Martha with a vow that she would not be killed.

I thought that was the most BRILLIANT scene, because showed BOTH the humanity and compassion of our heroes as well as their own psychology. It was a vital connect. And even with that, Batman wasn't just suddenly chumming.... he just made a promise to save Superman's mom and it was more for HIMSELF as a redemption for not being able to save his own mother. After that, there was bigger problems with Doomsday.

So, again...unless anyone tell me something BETTER...stop with this notion that all it took was but we got the same mother's name and boom the beef was squash..there was DEEPER and CLEAR reasons behind that shyt.
 
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