You know it's inevitable... The Batman V Superman SPOILER Discussion Thread

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How did Luthor find out Bruce was Batman? One thing I've noticed throughout comic lore is that villains never seem to reveal identities after they've been defeated

The only thing I don't like about Lex already being in jail after one movie is that it kind of bypasses the Lex as president storyline

lex had been looking into that shyt for years....with his money and connections, it was only a matter of time once he put his mind to it......also, people keep ignoring the fact he had kgbeast working for him...that's who the Russian guy is and that muthafukka is a beast, like his name says....

they still could do the lex for president story line....we saw him get locked up, but he could always get out and get shyt overturned....
 

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I dunno breh, i didnt mind him snapping dudes neck in the knight mare part, but during the 18 wheeler chase, batman gave no fukks and was letting them bullets fly, dragging and exploding cars :wow:

I agree with the ware house fight tho, didnt kill any body

true, he was, but he's done that shyt since the burton films....
 

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Na bruh..... he was definitely on that "Murda Game" and I have no problem with that.... but he killed people.

I mean that car scene alone...... he killed every guy on that speed chase..... and remember when the Batmobile flew over colliding with that truck and taking the top off? He killed one of the guys standing there.... remember it was several guys in the back of that truck and only 2 made it back alive.

Later when he went to save Martha..... he from his Batwing shot and killed all the guys on the turrets

And lastly.... with Martha.... he killed both guys in that room.... no way they survived that explosion.

I dont see it as a big deal like others may..... but he did have a body count rivaling Stallone and Arnold in the 80's:mjlol:

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the car shyt I don't count cause he's been doing things like that since the burton films...

I agree about kgbeast....him and that dude in there with him are the only people i'd say he intentionally killed....the rest, naw...that's just batman being batman....we can pretend those people in cars magically survived like they did in the building that he dropped a bomb off in in the burton film lol....
 

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I love eisenberg as lex but they didn't do a good job conveying what his motives are. Is he just a CEO trying to protect the world from aliens? Is he an anarchist trying to fukk shyt up? Is he trying to play god bent on world domination? Mix of the three?

he made his motives very clear...all his speeches he gave, especially the one with sup on the roof stated his intentions.....he didn't give a damn about protecting the world, all he cared about was power and control...and the one thing he knew he couldn't control/have power over was superman....also, he didn't like how superman was looked at as a god....he wanted to not only kill superman, but to kill how people viewed superman...hence him saying he wanted superman to kill batman just to prove he wasn't all good, virtue....
 
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did yall catch the brainiac tease?...when luthor first started the kryptonain ship, it was a male voice that said the ship was only at 30% ready.....after a few secs, he switched it to the soothing female voice to calm luthor.....not only that, the computer was egging on luthor to wanting to know more....'do you wanna be the new captain?.....the ship has info on over 100k worlds, wanna know it?'....it was lil shyt like that makes this movie amazing...
 

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did yall catch the brainiac tease?...when luthor first started the kryptonain ship, it was a male voice that said the ship was only at 30% ready.....after a few secs, he switched it to the soothing female voice to calm luthor.....not only that, the computer was egging on luthor to wanting to know more....'do you wanna be the new captain?.....the ship has info on over 100k worlds, wanna know it?'....it was lil shyt like that makes this movie amazing...
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JUST CAME BACK FROM THE MOVIE :blessed:

My Review on the way

Major Praise: fukkING BATMAN !!!! :lawd:
Major complaint: CGI !!


- REVIEW -

Movie started off slow but it made sense why, explaining the aftermath of the metropolis attack and also the worlds take on Superman

the Bat lifting young bruce up was not needed tho lol, shyt was comedy status in the theatre. :mjlol: nikka twirling like he dancing on ice

Ben Affleck played BATMAN, how Batman is meant to be played, Bruce knowing HE IS Batman and that Bruce is his cover (not Nolans bull crap where the nikka aint even wanna be Batman cause some dumb bish died :scust: )

Visually, everything about Batman was AMAZING, his entrance into the Batcave was beautiful, hell the ocean view crib was too flawless, gave us the insight of what Billionaire Bruce was all about.
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I liked how Bruce was the Batman we loved, he showed signs of PREP TIME (training and plotting to fight Supes), Knew a number of languages (Russian), COULD ACTUALLY FIGHT

Jeremy Irons was a class act, thats a suave Alfred if there ever is one, shows that he's more than a Butler but a partner who can handle himself (once again :scust: @ Nolans Alfred)

Whoever says Superman was dull and emotional is most likely a Marvel stan who thinks being emotional is tears and cracking jokes 24/7 , the nikka was upset when talking to his mom cause the world wasnt sure about him, shyt when the damn Senate hearing went off you could see the disdain and grief on his face, he knew he fukked up somehow and he was tryna fathom all the dead people..

Eisenberg.. WOW, now i see where all the complaint comes from (seems more riddler than Lex), BUT PLEASE dont let that distract you from the plans and his execution of it all, THE AUDIENCE AT MY THEATRE loved him especially his jokes, shyt he was menacing, i could hear people chattering about how scary he is...

When he sent the piss jar and ol girl was SHOOK AS fukk
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, the whole cinema was silent, shyt was tense

Now his theme song.. WOW, HIS DAMN THEME SONG, if that didnt make him more menacing then im sorry, you just a hater.. cause that theme song when he got off his helicopter.. WOW, i was literally clapping cause shyt was just WOW..

Its funny how he never personally called himself ''LEX'' tho but addressed people to him as Alexander, so it might be a play on him not being the typical Lex we know but a variation of the alternate Earth Alexander.

''crime wave in Gotham'', ''WATER IS WET'' :mjlol: fukkING DEAD LOL

There's no reason anyone should complain about the movie being too dark, we have a Bruce who has been fighting crime for 20 years and has SEEN IT ALL, Alfred alluded to that with the constant theme of ''Good men turning Bad'' i saw it as both a play on supes and Bats, especially Bats cause this is an already established DC universe, one can come to the conclusion that Bruce was never this dark, the loss of Todd most likely pushed him over the edge, which is why he didnt seem to care about the level of brutality he handed out anymore.
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With Supes, here we have a newbie superhero still coming to terms with his powers, and on his inception of being great has a hand to the loss of thousands of lives, he's still coming to the terms of what he caused/ could have prevented and also how the world doesnt seem to see him as a good guy. Of course he's not gonna be cheery, give the guy a break.

It was good to see an angry Supes tho, even I felt the terror.
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NO ONE, I MEAN NO ONE in the cinema was a fan of the romance between clark and lois
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, shyt nikkas was groaning when he sent the ring and when he stopped the fight with doomsday to save her, nikkas laughed all over when i shouted ''Let her die'' :lawd:

I think people shyt themselves in the first hallucination with the big ass Bat lol (i almost died yooooo)

I was the only one who got the Darkseid reference in the cinema smh (fukking noobs), evil supes = GOAT.. nikka fried the regime with no thought (Injustice ??)

Am i the only one who felt the Spaceship interaction with Lex was hinting at Braniac ?? the way the tentacles moved and the talk about the ship having knowledge of thousands of worlds, lol i mean.. BRAINIAC

Wonder woman was BEAUTIFUL.. i liked how they made her graceful and still showed she was a threat, she wasnt fighting doomsday to survive, bish was having fun :blessed: they made her a princess and a warrior and it worked.

Once again, I stand with my notion that DC has a sleeper with Aquaman...nothing has ever been done underwater and especially amazing.. so i think DC has a chance to own something in this CBM era, if AM is done well, i think DC willl gain an edge, Drago looked damn good
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Still iffy on Flash but we'll have to see, Cyborg cant comment, was nice seeing the Motherbox in action though.

...... IN CONCLUSION

The hate the movie is getting is HIGHLY unwarranted, whatever reason you have against the movie shouldnt be anything less than 60%

VISUALLY = 8/10 (would be higher if not for that cgi cringe fest when supes got nuked :scust: )
Story line = 6.5/10 (they had A LOT of stories to tell and not enough time)
Action = 10/10 (warehouse scene = GOAT fight scene EVER !! #2 is from Winter Soldier)

overall the movie is a must see, def seeing it again, its that good.

:myman: great review
 

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someone help me understand these points. I thought the movie was dope. but some things bothered me.

1. For example, luthor (his son) seems to be the joker without the purple costume and green face paint. Some type of sadistic killer who just wants people to hurt and not think about what he's doing (Totally unlike lex).

2. Bruce is 43 in this movie, judging from his parents dying in 1981 (from their gravestones) and him being 8 at the time puts him at 43 in 2016.

3. Alfred was great but he should look a little bit older considering he should be in his late 70s 80s. He didn't look older then 55.

4. I don't like how doomsday was wasted as being zod and being 20 feet tall. He should've been shorter and there should've been more hand 2 hand between him and superman in my opinion.

5. Also how the fukk did luthor figure out bruce was batman and superman was clark kent all of a sudden. that should've been fleshed out since the movie was over 2hours long. Hadd the real luthor known this he would've used it to his advantage and made them both squirm. Instead his idiot son just wants them to kill eachother and he wants doomsday to kill everyone else.

6. Also if luthor had this data on WW, Cyborb, Aqauaman and flash why hasn't he found them yet and assembled them agaiinst superman. That would've been a great plot twist IMO.

7. How da fukk does alexander luthor know about darkside? (from zod's ship??) Shyt seems so random

I numbered your questions to make it easier to answer:

1. he was very lex like, just not the established lex we know....with all the moves he made, he had purpose...he wanted power and control, and was doing things to achieve that...his only obstacles: superman and other meta-humans

2. yea, bruce is older....he's older in the comics....in the movie, he had been batman for 20 years, so we don't know all that he had done in those 20 years...but if it's anything like the comic, he probably had to the lazarath pits and even though he was older, he had the body of a in prime shape human male...

3. that depends on how old he was when he started for the waynes....also, they gave him lil things characteristics to show he was older like the patches of grey hair....

4. they didn't waste him though, they put some of zod into doomsday and he wasn't just a mindless creature....like the laser eyes and the resentment of superman were a nice touch...he hated superman as soon as he saw him like he remembered all the shyt as zod...ex: look at how he looks at the superman statue....as for the hand to hand & what he looked like, that's preference...

5. it wasn't all of a sudden...he had been doing research on that shyt for 2 years (even says it in the movie)...with his connections and money, was only a matter of time...like I said: the only thing he cares about is power and control..plus he was jealous at how superman was perceived by the masses...so he wanted to kill all that shyt (bats, superman, and superman's image) without doing it himself...doomsday was his last ditch effort if batman didn't get the job done...he thought he could control him, but ultimately didn't give a fukk as long as superman died....

6. yea, he had some data on them, but not enough to do shyt with...that's what he was working on...but the first thing he had to do was get rid of superman...

7. the ship told him...the ship told him it had info on over 100k worlds and asked if he wanted to know it....that's also how he knew about creating doomsday....the nice touch about that: the ship was brainiac
 

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next time you see the movie, pay close attention to that scene....in addition to the things I said, the ship does other lil things that give the impression that it's thinking for itself...i.e. brainiac....
 

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How did Luthor find out Bruce was Batman? One thing I've noticed throughout comic lore is that villains never seem to reveal identities after they've been defeated

The only thing I don't like about Lex already being in jail after one movie is that it kind of bypasses the Lex as president storyline
If I remember correctly before being elected Lex had a pretty shady record that he convinced the public to look past.
 

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Top shelf movie, yo. TOP SHELF.
It's was a good story, while upholding the major tenents of these characters:

- Superman is controlled by females
- Batman is the illest mofo of all these comic book b*stards

I hope we get Aquaman before we get the League movie.

batman with his 9/10 men would have line :banderas:
 

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next time you see the movie, pay close attention to that scene....in addition to the things I said, the ship does other lil things that give the impression that it's thinking for itself...i.e. brainiac....
I'm going to watch man of steel again tonsee if the ship does that
 
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