Yes, I am aware that he's a murderous cult leader, but it's still hilarious to hear Jim Jones curse

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I'll never understand how so soon after the Civil rights era that so many blacks could follow a white man. To Africa at at that. And I don't give a fukk who you say you are. You just ain't finna be fukking my wife and I'm supposed to okay with that
 

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to be fair tho

not defending him because hes still a murderer due to the actions he chose after the incident but

was it Jim Jones who told his goons to shoot the politician or did they simply do that dumb sh1t on their own accord and Jim figured that since we're all fukked now we might as well go out with a bang after the fact?

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Yeah, Jim Jones gave the call to the closest members to go put them down, he knew once they left the place with word of people wanting to leave that it would be the end of him and his cult.

Best documentary on it, imo:




I can't speak to how graphic it is if you decide to watch it. I just can't remember if it featured that death audio or not, so I would tread carefully if you don't want to see or hear shyt like that.
 
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Yeah, Jim Jones gave the call to the closest members to go put them down, he knew once they left the place with word of people wanting to leave that it would be the end of him and his cult.

Best documentary on it, imo:




I can't speak to how graphic it is if you decide to watch it. I just can't remember if it featured that death audio or not, so I would tread carefully if you don't want to see or hear shyt like that.

thank u

i'm not a p*ssy but thanks for the disclaimer
 

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Break down the psychology behind why someone would want to become a pastor if they're an atheist, I guess it's better than working in a factory I'd assume? But highly unethical

I wonder if the biopic with Leo will touch on that

Being a church was basically their cover and allowed them to be tax exempt

They were really supposed to be a "socialist" organization but obviously you couldn't up front w/that in the Cold war era
 

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Jim Jones was a racist egomaniac killer and closeted homosexual. The fact that he cussed was the least of his vices. He lured hundreds of retired black people out there and had them brainwash their family to go all the way to South America for some sort of promise land racial utopia and then had their SSI checks routed directly to him and was literally fukking them and their family members (males and kids included). These tapes were made during his drug fueled marathons he was having regularly because he knew he fukked up bringing these folks over there. There was zero infrastructure, folks were complaining, and his (all white) inner circle was defecting on him. The US was sending congressmen over there to investigate. He was a coward and died like one
 

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It's an interesting case study

the last audio recording is in public domain
Listener discretion is advised!!!
It starts with people arguing about if they could flee to Russia
But ends with the suicide
Remember that the cult collected damaged people with very limited options
And enticed the acquiescence of the semi-capable with positions of authority/control they would not find elsewhere

The book written by al & Jeanne mills
They left the cult before Guyana
But their account goes way back
Even in indianapolis,,, jones would claim there was no God -- and dare God to strike him dead right there on the spot
And nothing would happen, so the congregation was like "welp, there you go"

Much like nigerian Prince scammers,, he chased away the people who hesitated
He just fished for people ready to hop on board the crazy train
Intentionally selecting malleable ( or manipulative) people

Jeanne mills started a survivors group and might have been crazier and a bigger narcissistic paranoid nutjob than jones
Al and Jeanne mills and their daughter were murdered in a home invasion that has never been solved
25 years later their son was charged but ultimately not convicted

Again, people's temple was a wild assortment of damaged people who radicalized themselves to the incident
Jones had a hand on the wheel but other people had their feet on the accelerator
He was losing control - i seem to remember he was forced to start a second council, etc
They had done the obligatory reboots and were kind of at the end of the string

(My comments might not represent the prevailing view)
 

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It's also not normal to kill yourself and entire congregation with poisoned kool aid. Nothing about him was normal, that's the first thing you should know

It wasn't just poisoned kool aid, they were threatened at gun point and a number of people were shot to death. I don't like how even now his majority black congregation are characterized as thralls to this demonic cac and that whole episode spawned a phrase which boils down to being a blind follower. shyt is very fukked up :francis:
 
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