Yes, Black people, we should read Marx.

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It's something I've noticed recently in "black socialist" & "black communist" circles. There were always too many white hipsters in the mix & i didnt trust their intentions. Ideologically I agree with many black communist strategies.

If said white hipsters aren't anti-imperialists I completely understand were you're coming from

This brother here explains just that

 

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I'm pretty sure. Black panthers and all the gangs from 60s and 70s started out Marxist or communist
 

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This is why I said individually ... There are more opportunities to generate $$$$ now
than in Marx period. The information is now widely available and right at your fingertips.

but it's an individual decision that comes with certain sacrifices and concessions

Marx lived in a period where setting up a business was horrendously difficult ...
In terms of securing financing, logistics, advertising NOT too mention technology

Furthermore...

You are conflating African-American history with African history then using
political ideology as proof when you already know the economic impact of this
system.

First of The Mali/Songhai Empires were there centuries before European invasions
These were capitalist monarchies that traded and charged taxes and managed
to amass wealth too. There was a hierarchy from the elite to the peasant class.

So the liberators might have been communists but you are ignoring other variables here
such as Russia and China looking to undermine Western Europeans


You clearly haven't thought this through.
Individualism is/has been destroying the black community.
 

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This is why I said individually ... There are more opportunities to generate $$$$ now
than in Marx period. The information is now widely available and right at your fingertips.

but it's an individual decision that comes with certain sacrifices and concessions

Marx lived in a period where setting up a business was horrendously difficult ...
In terms of securing financing, logistics, advertising NOT too mention technology

Furthermore...

You are conflating African-American history with African history then using
political ideology as proof when you already know the economic impact of this
system.

First of The Mali/Songhai Empires were there centuries before European invasions
These were capitalist monarchies that traded and charged taxes and managed
to amass wealth too. There was a hierarchy from the elite to the peasant class.

So the liberators might have been communists but you are ignoring other variables here
such as Russia and China looking to undermine Western Europeans


You clearly haven't thought this through.

I don't think you understand what I am saying...

Those African empires were full of poor people while the king had everything...no different than Ancient Egypt or any other kingdom and then he had his merchants that traded and gave him a piece...and he could keep the rest...

That wasn't capitalism...that's feudalism and it was shytty. Income inequality was rampant and most people didn't have shyt.

Britain invented Capitalism...with the Industrial Revolution...capitalism isn't just trading...

Capitalism involves private property, wage worker, industrialization and building economies of scale with standardization.

And it involves exploitation...like the Transatlantic Slave Trade...

The African diaspora is a creation of capitalism, colonialism is a creation of capitalism...

What is making a business have to do with anything?

You can't compete with Amazon

You can't compete with Netflix...

You can't compete with Facebook...

You can't compete with Google...

You can't compete with Alibaba...

You can't compete with Valve...

You can't compete with General Electric...

You can't compete with Universal or Warner or Disney....

Amazon created cloud technology that runs the entire internet...Netflix is ran on Amazon cloud...

Not only that...Amazon has a footwear company, it has a publishing company, a multimedia company, consumer electronic company, it has a grocery store, a robotic company...you can't compete with that...

Nobody needs another business....fukk I need to go to any other business for?.

Who gonna start a business and do what? I can get whatever I want in 2 days.

It was easier to start a business back in Marx's day. Way easier.

That's what people that support capitalism don't understand. It doesn't get easier as capitalism goes on...it gets harder.

Marx told people this shyt

His ideas is about how capitalism works...and for the most part...he's right...

You sell your labor...

Capitalists sell the products of your labor...

You get fukked...cause you don't control the products of you labor...and the capitalists takes it from you and creates a profit...

Capitalists don't wanna pay you for your labor...therefore they create technology to get rid of you...making their businesses stronger...thus you become unemployed...then you can't buy anything...then capitalists lose money can't sell shyt because people don't have jobs so they'll fire more people to squeeze more profit...and the market is fukked up...

And people call this...the business cycle...and it repeats itself and repeats itself and repeats itself...

Meanwhile...people lose social services, people lose control of their country to corporations, racism runs rampant, people die from curable diseases and starvation, military becomes hawkish and starts invading shyt cause war is good for patriotism and business...

And when the economy gets back right...people act like there wasn't recession or a depression 7 years ago....
 
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Yes, read Marx, the same man who inspired some of the most brutal, evil dictatorships in the world and whose ideas lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. Over 100 million in China alone, but who's counting?

9 million people die from starvation each year...

3 million people die from curable diseases each year

3 million people become homeless each year in the USA

While income inequality is highest it's been since the middle ages...

62 people own as much wealth as the bottom half of humanity...

You are living in a world where your life is literally worthless...and people die by the millions every year over shyt that could be solved if a few people weren't literal demigods among us.

Capitalisms death toll outweights Communism by billions....lets not go there...capitalism been around since 1700s...

How many people died in factories, mines, wars, invasions, on the seas, on plantations?


And the Industrial Revolution aka the birth of capitalism created the TransAtlantic Slave trade and colonialism and imperialism and racism...but okay...:mjlol:



Argue for something that enslaved your ancestors and created a global caste system that put us at the bottom and it think it's gonna get you out...:hhh:
 
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I don't think you understand what I am saying...

Those African empires were full of poor people while the king had everything...no different than Ancient Egypt or any other kingdom and then he had his merchants that traded and gave him a piece...and he could keep the rest...

That wasn't capitalism...that's feudalism and it was shytty. Income inequality was rampant and most people didn't have shyt.

Britain invented Capitalism...with the Industrial Revolution...capitalism isn't just trading...

Capitalism involves private property, wage worker, industrialization and building economies of scale with standardization.

And it involves exploitation...like the Transatlantic Slave Trade...

The African diaspora is a creation of capitalism, colonialism is a creation of capitalism...

What is making a business have to do with anything?

You can't compete with Amazon

You can't compete with Netflix...

You can't compete with Facebook...

You can't compete with Google...

You can't compete with Alibaba...

You can't compete with Valve...

You can't compete with General Electric...

You can't compete with Universal or Warner or Disney....

Amazon created cloud technology that runs the entire internet...Netflix is ran on Amazon cloud...

Not only that...Amazon has a footwear company, it has a publishing company, a multimedia company, consumer electronic company, it has a grocery store, a robotic company...you can't compete with that...

Nobody needs another business....fukk I need to go to any other business for?.

Who gonna start a business and do what? I can get whatever I want in 2 days.

It was easier to start a business back in Marx's day. Way easier.

That's what people that support capitalism don't understand. It doesn't get easier as capitalism goes on...it gets harder.

Marx told people this shyt

His ideas is about how capitalism works...and for the most part...he's right...

You sell your labor...

Capitalists sell the products of your labor...

You get fukked...cause you don't control the products of you labor...and the capitalists takes it from you and creates a profit...

Capitalists don't wanna pay you for your labor...therefore they create technology to get rid of you...making their businesses stronger...thus you become unemployed...then you can't buy anything...then capitalists lose money can't sell shyt because people don't have jobs so they'll fire more people to squeeze more profit...and the market is fukked up...

And people call this...the business cycle...and it repeats itself and repeats itself and repeats itself...

Meanwhile...people lose social services, people lose control of their country to corporations, racism runs rampant, people die from curable diseases and starvation, military becomes hawkish and starts invading shyt cause war is good for patriotism and business...

And when the economy gets back right...people act like there was recession or a depression 7 years ago....

Europe =/= Africa.

Stop making these comparisons when you clearly know nothing about the Songhai/Mali Empires

Mali Empire actually consisted of mini hierarchical kingdoms and they decentralised power to avoid instability
and to guard trade routes. They had a system of taxation which citizens and traders alike paid as well.

This guy is bringing up the biggest companies in the world as a latch ditch attempt :laff:

There are tens of thousands of companies in other sectors where you can make a killing

but like I said, one has to make the personal decision to seek information, acquire skills,
try and fail and fail and fail and fail and fail and fail and fail and fail and fail and fail and fail

and fail some more until ... they hit a breakthrough

And unlike Marxs time, you can find all the information and we have better technology now

You sell your skills ... if your skills are widely available then obviously you'll get the minimum wage

You only get f*cked if you don't develop new skills....

Capitalists will pay you what you are worth ... if you are an underling whose cold calling and closing clients and
bringing in 6-7 figures worth of business or great at spotting/grooming/hiring talent or making business
processes more efficient then you'll get accordingly or move to start another company or start your own

Explain how exactly communism solves any of those problems you just stated ?
 

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Yes, read Jesus Christ, the same man who inspired some of the most brutal, evil dictatorships in the world and whose ideas lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. Over 100 million in China alone, but who's counting?
*fixed :troll:
 

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If said white hipsters aren't anti-imperialists I completely understand were you're coming from

This brother here explains just that


This tweet is confusing liberals with leftists

Not saying white leftists don't have issue with race but objectively their views/politics would be significantly better for blacks than any other alternative
 

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blk ppl still think capitalism is the way out


let them stay lost

I mean, unfortunately anyone continuing to support and provide legitimacy to the status quo is a co-conspirator in sending the world that we all live in careening off a cliff. :francis:

All I can say is that y'all better be prepping. :wow:
 

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I mean, unfortunately anyone continuing to support and provide legitimacy to the status quo is a co-conspirator in sending the world that we all live in careening off a cliff. :francis:

All I can say is that y'all better be prepping. :wow:

If you don’t live in Cuba then you are a hypocrite.
 
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