Y'all Think It's Hyperbole, But Football is at a True Crisis Point

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Why does "America" need to admit to that? As far as this "lust for violence" sounds like an old school mentality, not sure the younger generation is as enamored with that side of the game.

Maybe you're right. But this concern about the after effects the game puts on the players is phony as hell. Most fans don't care what goes on with these guys after their careers are done.
 

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Maybe you're right. But this concern about the after effects the game puts on the players is phony as hell. Most fans don't care what goes on with these guys after their careers are done.

Yeah, to a point, its more on some don't ask, don't tell ish, but with social media guy's post career lives are becoming more relevant and when big names go down its an uncomfortable reminder for some of the toll the game has on guys. (ie Seau). I wouldn't say I don't care about players post-career, but as long as they know and understand the risks I'm not going to lose too much sleep over it. Its like boxing in that regard.
 

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I dont think people watch football to satisfy their "lust for violence." Playing it....sure. But people watch it because it's a damn fun sport to watch and root for.
 

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I agree.. But once the poor folks become the "face of the league" is when the popularity will decline..


Manning, Brady, Luck, Rivers, Brees, Ryan, Flacco etc are the shield protecting the poor and violent underbelly from making this like the ABA in the 70's...


An all "hood" or all "Black" league might actually make for a more exciting on field product.. But it won't be as marketable...And then thats where the sponsors will leave..Violence is only part of the NFL's appeal...

True. However QBs arent the one with the brain trauma and paralysis. Touching the QB is being systematically eliminated from the game. White QBs arent going anywhere.
 

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Maybe you're right. But this concern about the after effects the game puts on the players is phony as hell. Most fans don't care what goes on with these guys after their careers are done.
Yeah to me it's more of a.. "hey you chose to play a game where you get your ass kicked for 60 minutes at a time once a week for 4 months..." I do feel empathy for guys with serious injuries and handicaps after playing the game, but at the same time, no one can convince me that a single one of them wasn't aware of that as a risk. The short term reward of being set up financially possibly for life for playing the game you love is plenty to keep a lot of these guys sleeping well at night.

If you asked me right now if I would take a nice 7 figure NFL contract for an 8 year career of getting knocked around with the risk that I might be walking funny or have some brain issues when it's all over, I'm taking that contract. I imagine a lot of folks like myself who simply lack the genetics to play the game may feel the same way. Why get bent out of shape over someone you'd STILL trade places with, even knowing the risks?
 

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Yeah to me it's more of a.. "hey you chose to play a game where you get your ass kicked for 60 minutes at a time once a week for 4 months..." I do feel empathy for guys with serious injuries and handicaps after playing the game, but at the same time, no one can convince me that a single one of them wasn't aware of that as a risk. The short term reward of being set up financially possibly for life for playing the game you love is plenty to keep a lot of these guys sleeping well at night.

If you asked me right now if I would take a nice 7 figure NFL contract for an 8 year career of getting knocked around with the risk that I might be walking funny or have some brain issues when it's all over, I'm taking that contract. I imagine a lot of folks like myself who simply lack the genetics to play the game may feel the same way. Why get bent out of shape over someone you'd STILL trade places with, even knowing the risks?
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September 2007

NFL ISSUES CONCUSSION PAMPHLET

The pamphlet says that current research on the long-term impact of concussions is inconclusive:

“Current research with professional athletes has not shown that having more than one or two concussions leads to permanent problems if each injury is managed properly. It is important to understand that there is no magic number for how many concussions is too many. Research is currently underway to determine if there are any long-term effects of concussions in NFL athletes.”
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sports/league-of-denial/timeline-the-nfls-concussion-crisis/
 

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Dude they play a game where 200/300+ pound freakish athletes crash into other over and over again for 60 minutes. Whether it's concussions, leg/knee issues, back/neck issues, whatever.. if you don't think it's a possibility of being a vegetable when you're old after that abuse, then you're not very smart. Doesn't make it any less tragic when it actually happens, but I'm just saying this is one reason why fans aren't clamoring to end the league because of it.
 

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Dude they play a game where 200+ pound freakish athletes crash into other over and over again for 60 minutes. Whether it's concussions, leg/knee issues, back/neck issues, whatever.. if you don't think it's a possibility of being a vegetable when you're old after that abuse, then you're not very smart. Doesn't make it any less tragic when it actually happens, but I'm just saying this is one reason why fans aren't clamoring to end the league because of it.

People not clamoring to end the league that hid disastrous mental and physical health issues as a result of its own game just show how deeply flawed this whole enterprise is, from the fan up to the owner, and including every sportscaster, writer, and coach. You're right about that, at least the player decided to play, although the league REALLY fukked itself over in hiding and disputing scientific evidence. They should've known it was only a matter of time before the tide turned against them, and that's what a few have spoken on in here - the arrogance of the NFL will do it in. Domestic abuse cases and CTE are only catalysts. You can even see that arrogance reflected in some fans - they brag about the profits of the league like THEY reap them, they say "women, fags, and liberals" don't watch football, but at the same time say football is the national game and will never die - there are a lot of "women, fags, and liberals" in this country, or else the internet wouldn't constantly complain about how everything is p*ssy nowadays.

I know you weren't touching all these issues, so I'm not attacking you, your comment was just a jumping off point for what I've been thinking lately, which is to say, how can anyone encourage this league, much less this game, being played in good faith? Why are we placing "spectacle" and "entertainment" above suicide and poor quality of life? You really gonna look someone in the eye and say "I'm sorry you have CTE and wanna kill yourself, thanks for the sacks tho"?
 

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Violent competition is a natural part of life

MEN wage war
MEN play football

Y'all pussies shut up
There will always be a warrior class

Plus nfl got the most bank on us soil
As long as those big ass stadiums draw crowds the league will be here making young black millionaires:myman:*
 

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So many football fans missing the forest for the trees. The game isn't going to change significantly until someone dies on live TV, as sad as it is to say. Then mothers will forbid their sons from playing, corporations will slowly start pulling out from sponsoring, and the entire thing will come crumbling.
 

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Violent competition is a natural part of life

MEN wage war
MEN play football

Y'all pussies shut up
There will always be a warrior class

Plus nfl got the most bank on us soil
As long as those big ass stadiums draw crowds the league will be here making young black millionaires:myman:*
What's a million dollars to a man that can't remember he has it? Would you give up 20 years of your life for that money? That's the type of questions facing these football players.
 
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