Y'all Really Think Ukraine's Winning This War?

Wild self

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Russia getting exposed was the last place all these MAGA nutbags had to fall back on as "an example of power".

Their only hope now is Russia nukes, which ain't happening because that's a death sentence for that country.

MAGA sees Russia as the last example of old world society where men and women "know their place" and where drunken men can have a maid at home.
 

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Everyday Kiev stands and Ukraine doesn’t capitulate is an L for Russia. They can’t even project power on their doorstep against an Ill-equipped (compared to the RF) enemy that isn’t trained in most of the equipment it’s supplied with. Most people thought they’d roll over but they’ve been inflicting mass casualties and destruction on Russian forces since the beginning aka it’s a L no matter what coli comrades say
It’s an L until it isn’t… :unimpressed:


…and the rest is nonsense, Ukraine has been outfitted with and provided training by the worlds best since the beginning.
 

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Russia don’t have the balls to use nucs… matter of fact nobody on planet earth who owns nucs has the balls to use them :camby: :camby: :camby:
Everyone knows if you use it will be the end of life as w elbow it:scust:
No one wins
 

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Russia don’t have the balls to use nucs… matter of fact nobody on planet earth who owns nucs has the balls to use them :camby: :camby: :camby:
Everyone knows if you use it will be the end of life as w elbow it:scust:
No one wins
Basically. Plus all the alliances defending one another.



At the end of the day nobody wants to instigate anything. If you're a country and you have a nuclear ally, you're as good as protected.

That's why we'll let North Korea do all their rocket experiments, test out crazy long range weapons (that now can hit any point in our country), etc.

North Korea knows though they throw a real one, it'll be over for them soon after that.

However, we know we'll start exchanging nukes with China right after and we don't want that either.

So we let them do their crazy flight tests and perfect their tech because we know they won't use it.
 
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I dunno what "win" means in the context of the conversation. Cats are talking as if this is a football game.

As it stands right now, Ukraine is "winning" because Russia hasn't successfully taken it, a year later. Russia is currently "losing" because again, it hasn't taken Ukraine.

Everything else is semantics.

And I don't know why people keep mentioning "but NATO is helping Ukraine!"....look man, I don't care if The Avengers is helping them, a decent chunk of this site told me Ukraine would get steamrolled 11 months ago. And if you predicted that without taking into account NATO would get involved, then you're a god damned fool.

Fred.
 

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Russia has taken a huge L with this war....before the war you had all these right wingers singing the praise of Putin, but he has shown himself to be incompetent and not a good leader. almost a year ago people were saying they would take over Ukraine in a few weeks......we damn near in 12 months and they struggling.

Once Putin is off power.....Them western nations will do Russia dirty. Eventually Russia will beg for a place on the global stage and try to reestablish relations with the west.
 

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Russia has taken a huge L with this war....before the war you had all these right wingers singing the praise of Putin, but he has shown himself to be incompetent and not a good leader. almost a year ago people were saying they would take over Ukraine in a few weeks......we damn near in 12 months and they struggling.

Once Putin is off power.....Them western nations will do Russia dirty. Eventually Russia will beg for a place on the global stage and try to reestablish relations with the west.

“Brehs” on this website were saying within 48 hours that Ukraine was done, Kiev was surrounded, and it was a wrap.

Then when the 3-day special operation lasted weeks, it was because Russia wasn’t using their best men or equipment.

Now it’s 11 months later and we’re back to the first set of talking points
 
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