Ya'll ready for the white nationalist revolution currently bubbling beneath the surface?

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So ya'all think the military is going to be on their side too, or you think you've going to fight off the military with a couple of gats. :comeon:

And money? :dwillhuh:

Some of ya'all get so scary so easily. :snoop:
Didn't age well:mjlol:
 

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I heard the relative of one of the victims call this out directly on television today. They literally took his gun from him and he was still able to legally buy an even more deadly replacement.
Indiana has red flag laws. This was a failure of law enforcement.
 

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Indiana's red flag law has a massive loophole - even if LE takes the gun away, there is nothing preventing the person from buying another gun. And LE can't do anything about it.
The ban lasts a year, and can be reupped if LE proves dude was still dangerous. LE dropped the ball. Didn't even do the bare minimum of a hearing.
 

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The ban lasts a year, and can be reupped if LE proves dude was still dangerous. LE dropped the ball. Didn't even do the bare minimum of a hearing.
According to one of Indiana's own DA's there is no ban while the case is pending, even if the firearm is confiscated:

Right now, even if officers temporarily take away someone’s gun, that person can still go to a gun store and purchase one while the case is open.

“We ultimately don’t benefit if those individuals have access to firearms if they are not of sound mind,” said Mears.

Mears believes family members are courageous when they ask police to take a gun away from a loved one. He thinks lawmakers need to show some courage too.

Indiana’s Red Flag Law — also known as the Jake Laird Law — allows officers to seize a person’s gun if law enforcement thinks he or she is dangerous or mentally unstable. A hearing is then set within 14 days.

However, Mears said often times the person whose firearm was taken wants to present evidence and testimony. So the case goes to trial. Mears explains that the process sometimes can take months, and in that time period, the person can legally purchase another gun.

“I think we need to have the courage to say it doesn’t make sense for this person to have the ability to purchase a firearm literally an hour later after they go through this stressful situation,” he said.

Mears is urging lawmakers to close this loophole.

He used a case last year as an example. Mears said a petition was filed in December of 2018 to take away a gun from a woman named Melissia Mitchell.

About two months later, in February of 2019, police said she shot her neighbor, Seth Johnson. He was taken to surgery for a bullet wound to his right lung, several broken ribs and a portion of his lung had to be removed, according to court documents. Mitchell was charged with aggravated battery and carrying a handgun without a license.

The Marion County Prosecutor’s Office said she purchased that firearm from a licensed gun dealer.

“There is nothing from preventing a person from purchasing, using or borrowing a firearm from someone else while their case is pending,” Mears said. “The law only applies to the dangerous firearm the person had access to when the officer interacted with them.”


And yes, LE didn't do their job either but I don't expect them to. If they have to go through a lengthy trial process every time they want to temporarily ban someone from having a gun when that person can easily get a gun during the trial or a year after anyway, it's not surprising that they don't invest heavy resources into it.

The default should be in the other direction, as it would be with actual serious background checks and waiting periods before purchase. But we have too many nuts obsessed with arcane rules written when slavery was chill, women weren't full citizens, and black folk were only worth 3/5th.
 

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just sitting here like how much is a grift, how many of them want violence and are a threat, and hurry up and die boomers

The key is that no matter which group they're in, the goal/belief system is the same.

It's not like other movements where for instance you have a ton of grifters who are making money but don't actually want or care for the movement to succeed.
 
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