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I started this gangsta sh-
You're a better man than me breh, couldn't mess with xmen like that no more
For those wondering, here is storm's family tree (she was married at the time):
T'chilla not taking his mask off for the family tree
XMEN movies are PROOF hollywood dont want to put BLACK WOMEN in roles of POWER
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Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
feelosofer
#ninergang
Fact of the matter is storm is supposed to be white peoples ideal image of a Black woman. She never has west African features, like a wide nose or thick lips. Her hair is not course or natural (in the traditional stance as we know it). Prior to being married to the Black Panther, she has been in relationships with white male characters or even deformed mutants. She is a fantasy character. As time passed they kinda went deeper into her African roots and made her more powerful as comics got more progressive but you guys are asking for something that never really was.
Storm in the movies is never as powerful or influential as she has been in the comics. Yet, when they did the st X-Men movie, I think you have to keep things in context. Comic book movies were seen as a box office dog turds You were only going to attract nerds and outliers. Batman and Robin kind of ruined the comic book movie genre and it was not a popular genre prior to that.
People will counter argue about Blade, but that was not really marketed so heavily as a comic book movie but more as hip 90's horror/action film. And let's be reality, Wesley Snipes was still a top draw and literally carried the the concept with his smooth delivery, martial arts and dope costume design. (Which the Matrix borrowed from). Some of you guys are a little young to remember this in real time but the movie was ahead of it's time in a lot of ways. Blade for all intents and purposes was a 3rd tier comic book character and the movie made him relevant.
X-Men while beloved as comic franchise was a big risk. Those nerds are exacting and you had to still make it palatable to a wider audience. Halle Berry was the go to Black actress of that time. I think Angela Bassett would have been pitch perfect for that role and the deep yet feminine timbre of her voice could have easily made for a convincing African accent, but Halle was the bigger draw. Remember these movies are business first and foremost and the studio heads have veto rights over casting ( I know, I've sat through the meetings). Even in most African-American indies, let's not act like the love interests are not lightskinned. mixed or non-back
I understand where @Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha is coming from with his frustrations of the lack of representation of the Black woman in film and other media but I'm saying the rot goes deep as fukk and we have been infected. You should read some of the comments that some of your fellow coli brethren have to say about Lupita N'yongo
Storm in the movies is never as powerful or influential as she has been in the comics. Yet, when they did the st X-Men movie, I think you have to keep things in context. Comic book movies were seen as a box office dog turds You were only going to attract nerds and outliers. Batman and Robin kind of ruined the comic book movie genre and it was not a popular genre prior to that.
People will counter argue about Blade, but that was not really marketed so heavily as a comic book movie but more as hip 90's horror/action film. And let's be reality, Wesley Snipes was still a top draw and literally carried the the concept with his smooth delivery, martial arts and dope costume design. (Which the Matrix borrowed from). Some of you guys are a little young to remember this in real time but the movie was ahead of it's time in a lot of ways. Blade for all intents and purposes was a 3rd tier comic book character and the movie made him relevant.
X-Men while beloved as comic franchise was a big risk. Those nerds are exacting and you had to still make it palatable to a wider audience. Halle Berry was the go to Black actress of that time. I think Angela Bassett would have been pitch perfect for that role and the deep yet feminine timbre of her voice could have easily made for a convincing African accent, but Halle was the bigger draw. Remember these movies are business first and foremost and the studio heads have veto rights over casting ( I know, I've sat through the meetings). Even in most African-American indies, let's not act like the love interests are not lightskinned. mixed or non-back
I understand where @Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha is coming from with his frustrations of the lack of representation of the Black woman in film and other media but I'm saying the rot goes deep as fukk and we have been infected. You should read some of the comments that some of your fellow coli brethren have to say about Lupita N'yongo
Does this really look like Storm to y'all?
Our new Ethiopian Queen
Halle though
?Not so bad in this pic if she got a tan,but that voice
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Storm's creator Dave Cockrum drew her as being brown skinned:
Dave c., tha gawd.
Art Barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
turned storm the most powerful and dominant warrior in the xmen
plus, their best and their most powerful leader into a complete joke.
Art Barr
Storm got the bushes treatment when the X-book writers decided to try to turn Cyclops from the white-bread cornball he'd always been into this forced edgy and trying too hard to make cool character. Couldn't have Storm around to show that Cyke was 2nd best so she got diminished.
But I won't forget. #BlackExcellence
But I won't forget. #BlackExcellence
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Storm got the bushes treatment when the X-book writers decided to try to turn Cyclops from the white-bread cornball he'd always been into this forced edgy and trying too hard to make cool character. Couldn't have Storm around to show that Cyke was 2nd best so she got diminished.
But I won't forget. #BlackExcellence
That 201.
This cartoon series.
Is written by the same hack bullshyt white hero fascination style writers. Which is why marvel does. Not own themselves to this day.
Xmen was never on fye becaise of Cyclops. It had to be reboot and run on bullshyt marvel presents rewrites under cyke leadership. That is why giant sized xmen number one was such a big deal. It was not till 201 and later.
that xmen hit blockbuster sales and interest.
Seems we are back once again.
where we never left.
No progress...
Art Barr
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Bugzbunny129
All Star
Xmen isnt an easy thing to cast. Thats why 6’2 skinny prancing hugh jackman plays 5’3” stocky and squat looking bad ass wolverine.
We will never get a true wolverine either. No wack ass 2020 soft whollywood cac actors is bad ass enough to portray him they need an unknown. But they will never cast that wolverine. They need someone young with a crazy look in his eyes the stocky short build. Hollywood is too soft wnd filled with wannabe male models and the types who become actors will never pull off a belivable wolverine EVER. Idc how much muscle they put on. I dont even see wolverine as a super muscle guy anyway. He not sposed to be defined all over like jackman. If anything dude got a beer belly from drinking all day.
Funny they had bob hoskins as wolverine in the early days lol. Thats a crazy one. In the 80s i could see like a young tom sizemore or jon bernthal or tom hardy something being aboe to do it. But you need an actor with edge. And disney is not gonna do that on a billion dollar franchise.
Tom hardy in that bootlegging movie is the wolverine build. Not muscled up and cut, in there hes just like thick and a formidable presence. Theres like 10 max actors who have it and they all too old or taken.
We will never get a true wolverine either. No wack ass 2020 soft whollywood cac actors is bad ass enough to portray him they need an unknown. But they will never cast that wolverine. They need someone young with a crazy look in his eyes the stocky short build. Hollywood is too soft wnd filled with wannabe male models and the types who become actors will never pull off a belivable wolverine EVER. Idc how much muscle they put on. I dont even see wolverine as a super muscle guy anyway. He not sposed to be defined all over like jackman. If anything dude got a beer belly from drinking all day.
Funny they had bob hoskins as wolverine in the early days lol. Thats a crazy one. In the 80s i could see like a young tom sizemore or jon bernthal or tom hardy something being aboe to do it. But you need an actor with edge. And disney is not gonna do that on a billion dollar franchise.
Tom hardy in that bootlegging movie is the wolverine build. Not muscled up and cut, in there hes just like thick and a formidable presence. Theres like 10 max actors who have it and they all too old or taken.
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The Prince of All Saiyans
Formerly Jisoo Stan & @Twitter
you complaining about hugh jackman?Bugzbunny129
All Star
Hugh jackman is great for his era and had a great run but there is a reason people wanted a marvel xmen because its NOTHING like the actual xmen. Why you think they keep bringing him back. He works. They know noone else will. Hes a safe bet. Probably even harder than storm to pull off because you have to look believably tough and have a scary presence despite being short. Almost impossible to do right because of all this. These thespian theatre actors do not have the edge.
Its the same way joe pesci is the most beliavable gangster even if hes short and not tough looking in real life. He has a presence that breaks through the screen and vibe because Joes grew up around that and can bring that authenticity. Why do all hollywood non italian made mafia movies look shyt. The same reason its not authentic. Goodfellas and godfather was.
Diff voice and no authenticity joe Pesci turns into jonah hill to people. No presence. Not scary. Jonah hills a great actor too but imagine him as tommy in goodfellas doing the why am i funny scene or in casino. Dont work at all. Pesci was actually scary in that why am i funny scene and people connected with that which is why its so classic because it felt REAL. Thats the wolverine problem.
His vibe is the hardest to pull off compared to any super hero. They are all notmal people and have normal lives and thus can be filled by them. Wolverine is not. Hes literally a walking weapon. Essentially an animal/beast druven by blood urges. He has knives for hands, fangs, and is built like a tank, is a loose canon; he should scare the shyt outta people it shouldnt be pretty. Hes so competitive and out there hes tryna take his team leaders girl; theyre supposed to be afraid of him. This role cant be filled by anybody. Thats why the x2 scene where he kills the soldiers is peoples favorite because that was the closest to real wolverine in the movies. You really cant do that with a pretty boy face and guy whos 175lbs, muscle or not. High jackman had most but not all the wolverine characteristics. When he was old man logan drinking and being aggy he was the closest overall but he was barely like that in the beginning just like a loner. Its deeper than that.
The taron edgerinton or whatever casting news made me sick.
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