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right but you see that the only way to have them avoid crossing paths is to conjure up mumbo jumbo. you can't keep the avengers off earth for the entirety of the x-men run, unless of course you kill them and have the x-men take the mantle.

if they were included in the MCU they wouldn't be able to help themselves, there would be a spidey/iron-man/hulk cameo every other movie.

an x-men movie should feature the x-men.

So you think there wouldn't be solo X-Men movies? There are crossovers, but outside Spidey, who hasn't had his own movies with their own casts villains and storylines? The hulk, bw and Hawkeye. Major avengers though? Theyve all had their time to shine
 

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So you think there wouldn't be solo X-Men movies? There are crossovers, but outside Spidey, who hasn't had his own movies with their own casts villains and storylines? The hulk, bw and Hawkeye. Major avengers though? Theyve all had their time to shine

once again though it begs the question why other marvel superheroes wouldn't routinely make cameos in every x-men movie. they occupy so much space that it would be impossible for these heroes not to cross paths when known villains pose a threat to a mutual territory.

if magneto is on some shyt, there's no reason why spiderman and cap... and luke cage... wouldn't come help out.
 

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once again though it begs the question why other marvel superheroes wouldn't routinely make cameos in every x-men movie. they occupy so much space that it would be impossible for these heroes not to cross paths when known villains pose a threat to a mutual territory.

if magneto is on some shyt, there's no reason why spiderman and cap... and luke cage... wouldn't come help out.


The same way they dont all the time cross paths in comics and cartoons.

Lets not be afraid to suspend our disbelief and enjoy the movies nephew

Martha
 

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once again though it begs the question why other marvel superheroes wouldn't routinely make cameos in every x-men movie. they occupy so much space that it would be impossible for these heroes not to cross paths when known villains pose a threat to a mutual territory.

if magneto is on some shyt, there's no reason why spiderman and cap... and luke cage... wouldn't come help out.

The avengers in the mcu aren't as big as they are in the comics. Why would luke get involved with magneto?
 
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Also, I like most of the Fox Mutant movies, they have done a fine job. But if we keep it trill they could be done better by paying more homage or sticking closer to the source material.
People want a good Cyclops, better Jean Grey, Angel with a speaking part, a kickass Rogue, a proper Dazzler, an evil Mystique, etc.
Feige is an X-Men Stan, he would make sure shyt is true to the comics.

I just wonder what era of the comics he's going to draw from for his inspiration. There's so many great characters, and everyone is somebody's favorite, so it won't be easy to narrow down a roster.
Either way, I know he's going to do better than to try to make "fetch" happen with Mystique again :mjlol:
 
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I just wonder what era of the comics he's going to draw from for his inspiration. There's so many great characters, and everyone is somebody's favorite, so it won't be easy to narrow down a roster.
Either way, I know he's going to do better than to try to make "fetch" happen with Mystique again :mjlol:
Yea, one of my biggest pet peeves is when they deviate so far from the origins that it's a completely different storyline. This is why I shyt on FAUX so much. The only movie I truly respect with credit due to Ryan Reynolds is deadpool. I would just recreate the X Men from his universe and continue to shyt on the Patrick Stewart X Men going into the MCU. I want to really see a 5'2 old man Logan storyline and a movie trilogy based around the Summers family with a powerful lead in Scott, Jean and half brother Gambit. It doesn't even have to be action packed just a really good drama based on discrimination against mutants. In this Trump era, the X Men could be very relatable. Make the connection between William Stryker and Trump creating the sentinels in the same sense that Trump wants to build a wall and provoke hate. Give him a toupee, an ugly Russian wife, stupid children and tech.
 

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right but you see that the only way to have them avoid crossing paths is to conjure up mumbo jumbo. you can't keep the avengers off earth for the entirety of the x-men run, unless of course you kill them and have the x-men take the mantle.

if they were included in the MCU they wouldn't be able to help themselves, there would be a spidey/iron-man/hulk cameo every other movie.

an x-men movie should feature the x-men.

Marvel Studios has that problem with Each avenger's solo outings anyway. There's nothing you can say about the X-Books that you can't say for each other book. That's why Iron Man 3's Mandarin had to be written how it was, in order to keep the story contained. It was considered a failure to most. Comic continuity is hard to translate to real world unless you either
  • isolate each property,
  • diminish/narrow/specialize the ambitions of the villain, or
  • minimize the timeframe of the movie setup.

That's not strictly an X-Issue...
 

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Marvel Studios has that problem with Each avenger's solo outings anyway. There's nothing you can say about the X-Books that you can't say for each other book. That's why Iron Man 3's Mandarin had to be written how it was, in order to keep the story contained. It was considered a failure to most. Comic continuity is hard to translate to real world unless you either
  • isolate each property,
  • diminish/narrow/specialize the ambitions of the villain, or
  • minimize the timeframe of the movie setup.

That's not strictly an X-Issue...


it's easier to separate the main avengers and the rest of the marvel cast of heroes because they occupy different corners of the universe. it's easier to buy them in their own isolated stories.

x-men encompasses all corners of the universe.
 

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No More Mutants :mjgrin:

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The same way they dont all the time cross paths in comics and cartoons.

Lets not be afraid to suspend our disbelief and enjoy the movies nephew

Martha

if they're not crossing paths then what need is there to even have them be in the MCU. if they're going to make them apart of the MCU it's only natural that they will cross over.

x-men could be it's own huge franchise though... with spinoffs and solo outings of it's own... it's a HUGE property. it doesn't need to be absorbed by the larger MCU... it's too much imo.

i understand though that the streets been waiting for that hulk/wolverine to happen.
 

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if they're not crossing paths then what need is there to even have them be in the MCU.

if they're going to make them apart of the MCU it's only natural that they will cross over.

x-men could be it's own huge franchise... with spinoffs and solo outings of it's own... it's a HUGE property. it doesn't need to be absorbed by the larger MCU... it's too much imo.


1 - Options

2 - Sure they will

3 - They already had their chance.... they were their own HUGE franchise for 20+ years. Its time to come home and do something new. Its not too much. hell its no way close to enough.

Look Age of Ultron is the best example to site for why they need to be in the MCU, the stories can be told better when they have 100% all the properties to put into play. If we truly want them to create the stories for the big screen that we loved on paper.... they need to become part of the unit.

Like say theres plans for a Secret Wars movie.... you cant do that properly without having everything you need to do it with.

Most of us at this point have no more intentions of watching these movies that arent canon and isolated stories. Either make exactly whats on the pages or atleast make something thats a variation of it ala all what everyone been trynna do in recent years.

Martha
 

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I don't want to see the X-Men in the already established MCU.

MCU has done justice to the comic properties they've been in charge of.

But their tone DOES NOT FIT the X-Men. Anyone saying that has never read the X-Men comics.

The only way...ONLY WAY I think it could work is, if the X-Men are relatively young and they tie in Genosha to the story line.

They can get away with this because Hydra basically held Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver captive. Rather than "Miracles" humanity comes to realize they are "mutants". That evolution from Neanderthals to homo-sapiens, and realize they potentially could be wiped out much in the same way.

They can play out a storyline where humanity is reaching the next level in evolution and several para government organizations are kidnapping kids and/or adults who are exhibiting these new strange powers and trying to use them for military purposes. Maybe Erik, in a retconned storyline is not a holocaust survivor but an 80s cold war CIA black ops experiment gone wrong and now he wants revenge. Perhaps him and Charles crossed paths in the 90s after he escaped and befriended each other, but the two grew apart because of a disdain for each others methods.

Charles starts a school for these mutants as a refuge to train the mutants but educate humanity on their peaceful coexistence.

This tone is not lighthearted whatsoever like much of the MCU so far. I think the tone would keep it from being Mega blockbuster half of the MCU movies are. It could mess up the numbers they are used to getting.

I just really think Fox captures the X-men tone perfectly despite the b*stardization of the source material.

Although Michael Fassbender brilliantly plays Magneto, Jeffrey Dean Morgan keeps popping in my head for Magneto in a new universe.
 

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I don't want to see the X-Men in the already established MCU.

MCU has done justice to the comic properties they've been in charge of.

But their tone DOES NOT FIT the X-Men. Anyone saying that has never read the X-Men comics.

The only way...ONLY WAY I think it could work is, if the X-Men are relatively young and they tie in Genosha to the story line.

They can get away with this because Hydra basically held Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver captive. Rather than "Miracles" humanity comes to realize they are "mutants". That evolution from Neanderthals to homo-sapiens, and realize they potentially could be wiped out much in the same way.

They can play out a storyline where humanity is reaching the next level in evolution and several para government organizations are kidnapping kids and/or adults who are exhibiting these new strange powers and trying to use them for military purposes. Maybe Erik, in a retconned storyline is not a holocaust survivor but an 80s cold war CIA black ops experiment gone wrong and now he wants revenge. Perhaps him and Charles crossed paths in the 90s after he escaped and befriended each other, but the two grew apart because of a disdain for each others methods.

Charles starts a school for these mutants as a refuge to train the mutants but educate humanity on their peaceful coexistence.

This tone is not lighthearted whatsoever like much of the MCU so far. I think the tone would keep it from being Mega blockbuster half of the MCU movies are. It could mess up the numbers they are used to getting.

I just really think Fox captures the X-men tone perfectly despite the b*stardization of the source material.

Although Michael Fassbender brilliantly plays Magneto, Jeffrey Dean Morgan keeps popping in my head for Magneto in a new universe.
Depends on what X-men comics you're talking about
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I don't want to see the X-Men in the already established MCU.

MCU has done justice to the comic properties they've been in charge of.

But their tone DOES NOT FIT the X-Men. Anyone saying that has never read the X-Men comics.

The only way...ONLY WAY I think it could work is, if the X-Men are relatively young and they tie in Genosha to the story line.

They can get away with this because Hydra basically held Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver captive. Rather than "Miracles" humanity comes to realize they are "mutants". That evolution from Neanderthals to homo-sapiens, and realize they potentially could be wiped out much in the same way.

They can play out a storyline where humanity is reaching the next level in evolution and several para government organizations are kidnapping kids and/or adults who are exhibiting these new strange powers and trying to use them for military purposes. Maybe Erik, in a retconned storyline is not a holocaust survivor but an 80s cold war CIA black ops experiment gone wrong and now he wants revenge. Perhaps him and Charles crossed paths in the 90s after he escaped and befriended each other, but the two grew apart because of a disdain for each others methods.

Charles starts a school for these mutants as a refuge to train the mutants but educate humanity on their peaceful coexistence.

This tone is not lighthearted whatsoever like much of the MCU so far. I think the tone would keep it from being Mega blockbuster half of the MCU movies are. It could mess up the numbers they are used to getting.

I just really think Fox captures the X-men tone perfectly despite the b*stardization of the source material.

Although Michael Fassbender brilliantly plays Magneto, Jeffrey Dean Morgan keeps popping in my head for Magneto in a new universe.
The Magneto origin you outlined, wouldn't he not be a mutant then?
And they are definitely trying to make blockbuster movies with this.
 
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