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There's some enjoyment in wolverine origins...b b but they fukked up deadpool, idgaf I never gave a crap about deadpool anyway (even tho i enjoy his 2 movies)
 

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Apocalypse made the hype for this movie worse. It was doomed from the moment they announced this movie. And trying to have Jennifer Lawrence replace Hugh Jackman as the lead was dumb as hell. Trying to make her the main hero was just plain :scusthov:

And then they said fukk using Quicksilver as much as they can, even though he stole the scenes he was in during the last 2 movies.

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It was simply okay. Not great, Kinda Bad. I had a feeling once Matthew Vaughn left X-Men... It would go back to shyt. He seems to be the only one can gracefully adapt source material, modernize, and clean up script pretty well.

I thought Apocalypse was way worse than Phoenix for reason that it had no excuse for being that bad.Apocalypse was one of the few old X-Men stories with some easily adaptable source material. Apocalypse should of been a 2 part event like Thanos, but they really fukked it up and to be honest... They never should of ran back Dark Phoenix in this era. It was really stupid.

To be honest, Dark Pheonix source hasn't aged that well. It's really not that great outside of nostalgia. There is just soooo many logic bombs that ruin X-men IP( Not just Dark Pheonix) as a whole and makes it super difficult to write a film for an ensemble cast. You can't really give every X-Men character their own film and then do X-Men/Avengers type films outside of like maybe 3 characters. X-Men is an IP seems more fitted towards high production quality HBO TV series than Films. An average hollywood writer ain't gonna be able to run that shyt unless you have a Matthew Vaughn that can manage it like a logic mathematician that frames the story for it to succeed and cleans up the script. Granted... ALL of the old X-men stories really need great writers/minds to translate them properly to the big screen, anyways. You're gonna throw out about 95% of the material out, because it flat out sucks.Then, you have a hack writer that will supplement the missing material with just as bad or worse material. It's just a mess and this has been plaguing X-Men for so many films.

Another issue that I have with the film... is the current climate towards Women and empowerment. Fox, Disney, or anyone wasn't gonna approve of an OG Dark Phoenix. Because making a woman being an insane, dark antagonist in this sensitive climate isn't gonna get approved by Execs. Disney wouldn't have the balls to do that shyt. They would of done the Phoenix 5 storyline with male being lead antagonist. It's smarter and they should of done it. It's a better storyline and way less predictable since it's more of a spin-off of Avengers vs. X-Men. You wouldn't know what to expect, but it needed a real writers and mind to adapt it.

It got turned into a women empowerment film, because that was it's only avenue it has to be honest. I don't mind it. I actually enjoyed the women empowerment take and people getting upset over it... Should stop being such a dikk. It's a comic book movie of a poorly aged source material with hack writer turn hack director, Simon Kinberg. It was the only half way decent message this film made. It simply wasn't the right time to try to do the OG Dark Pheonix.

So, I personally can't feel vitriol for this film with it's nonexistence character development, terrible logic, and etc. It's DOA and common sense would of told you that before even buying a ticket.

It's seems poetic for Fox X-Men to rose up from ashes like a Phenoix after being killed by Brett Ratner & Simon Kinberg in the Last Stand to be later killed again by the same man in Apocalypse & Dark Pheonix. Goodbye FOX.
 
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It was simply okay. Not great, Kinda Bad. I had a feeling once Matthew Vaughn left X-Men... It would go back to shyt. He seems to be the only one can gracefully adapt source material, modernize, and clean up script pretty well.

I thought Apocalypse was way worse than Phoenix for reason that it had no excuse for being that bad.Apocalypse was one of the few old X-Men stories with some easily adaptable source material. Apocalypse should of been a 2 part event like Thanos, but they really fukked it up and to be honest... They never should of ran back Dark Phoenix in this era. It was really stupid.

To be honest, Dark Pheonix source hasn't aged that well. It's really not that great outside of nostalgia. There is just soooo many logic bombs that ruin X-men IP( Not just Dark Pheonix) as a whole and makes it super difficult to write a film for an ensemble cast. You can't really give every X-Men character their own film and then do X-Men/Avengers type films outside of like maybe 3 characters. X-Men is an IP seems more fitted towards high production quality HBO TV series than Films. An average hollywood writer ain't gonna be able to run that shyt unless you have a Matthew Vaughn that can manage it like a logic mathematician that frames the story for it to succeed and cleans up the script. Granted... ALL of the old X-men stories really need great writers/minds to translate them properly to the big screen, anyways. You're gonna throw out about 95% of the material out, because it flat out sucks.Then, you have a hack writer that will supplement the missing material with just as bad or worse material. It's just a mess and this has been plaguing X-Men for so many films.

Another issue that I have with the film... is the current climate towards Women and empowerment. Fox, Disney, or anyone wasn't gonna approve of an OG Dark Phoenix. Because making a woman being an insane, dark antagonist in this sensitive climate isn't gonna get approved by Execs. Disney wouldn't have the balls to do that shyt. They would of done the Phoenix 5 storyline with male being lead antagonist. It's smarter and they should of done it. It's a better storyline and way less predictable since it's more of a spin-off of Avengers vs. X-Men. You wouldn't know what to expect, but it needed a real writers and mind to adapt it.

It got turned into a women empowerment film, because that was it's only avenue it has to be honest. I don't mind it. I actually enjoyed the women empowerment take and people getting upset over it... Should stop being such a dikk. It's a comic book movie of a poorly aged source material with hack writer turn hack director, Simon Kinberg. It was the only half way decent message this film made. It simply wasn't the right time to try to do the OG Dark Pheonix.

So, I personally can't feel vitriol for this film with it's nonexistence character development, terrible logic, and etc. It's DOA and common sense would of told you that before even buying a ticket.

It's seems poetic for Fox X-Men to rose up from ashes like a Phenoix after being killed by Brett Ratner & Simon Kinberg in the Last Stand to be later killed again by the same man in Apocalypse & Dark Pheonix. Goodbye FOX.

Nah, an X-Men movie isn't that hard. You just have to follow the style of the best comics storylines. It's an ensemble flick, so you have to treat it like an ensemble flick. But they X-Men work best when you follow 1/2 characters and have the rest play off of them at all times. They had the right idea for this, and that's where it works (beginning sequence, the train, Jean & Magneto), but didn't stick with it long enough.

I honestly think they did the best adaptation of the Dark Phoenix, with the cosmic entity, but no one cares about Jean or any of these characters, outside of Charles & Magneto. They haven't built them up enough. Plus, they might as well have called the aliens the MacGuffins, since that's all that they were. They should've left them out and just made it everyone vs Jean, while they try to figure out this entity.
 

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So this movie was better than

Origins
The Wolverine
Apocalypse

But falls far behind any other movie. They just can’t do the Dark Phoenix storyline right and it shows.

I didn’t think it was awful and I’m glad I didn’t read y’all reviews before going to see it. I’d give it a 5 out of 10 which is slightly below average
 

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Score & action sequences were dope, but the plot was :huhldup: and the longer the movie went the more it lost steam.


The Dark Phoenix story simply can't be told over the course of one 100 minute movie, with a Jean Grey who had 20 minutes of screen time prior to this film.
I think it's a major travesty that fukking Mystique has been given priority over anybody not named Magnus, Charles, or Logan in several X-Men movies. All that focus on her and they never even explored the story lines of her being 2 actual X-Mens mother. That shyt was just silly and makes me wonder how storylines would have went if Rebecca Romain had actually continued with the role and we weren't force fed more Jennifer Lawrence because of her Hollywood status.

Perhaps they would have been able to focus a little bit more on the actual members of the X-Men, so that instead developing a movie for a character that fans have no real connection to, they were allowed to see this character develop throughout the series and have a real sense of conflict with the characters transition into a real threat to the team and humanity. The handling of this franchise hasn't been a complete failure, but I feel like they were bobbling the ball all the way to the redzone and only ended up with a fg instead of a td. With a few exceptions, it never really felt like they wanted to embrace the source material. Whoever was in charge always wanted to put far to much of their spin on the material. Unlike someone else in this thread earlier, I think the X-Men have some of the most adaptable comic superhero stories out there, as their stories are the most human of popular stories we know. I'm eager to see how it will be adapted in newer hands.
 

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Biggest surprise for me was the Dazzler cameo. :krs:

To me this was the best Mystique looked in the blue make-up.

And this is the most Cyclops has never used his powers.

Other than that, the movie was pretty bad. They didn't even explain who the fukk the aliens were. :dahell:
 
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